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#577853 08/15/20 04:28 PM
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Just got back from running 100 rounds through my little Rizzini 702 o/u. As most everyone knows, this was my first time shooting RST ammo. The recoil was very soft IMO, and report may of been just slightly less than shooting AAs.

In comparing AAs to RST, the quality of RST shells were of a much higher quality all around in terms of external appearance in constancy with shell crimp and length. Performance wise RST broke clays. On a couple of the double stations, I used AA / RST and noted a slight difference in recoil and report which made me double check the barrels

IMO, great shells! With lower pressures I am curious how RST 7/8 oz 28 gauge would perform in the grouse woods. Dont get me wrong, I think anything over 3/4 oz in a 28 gauge you need to go up in caliber. However, it does put that thought in ones head.

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I shoot RST 28's in both 2 1/2" and 2 3/4" in Lites and Falcon Lites with 5/8 oz., 3/4 oz. and 7/8 oz. of #8 shot at muzzle velocities of 1175 fps, 1150 fps and 1100 fps and all perform splendidly on ruffed grouse out to 30-35 yards. The birds go down when I do my job, though not all are dead when they hit the ground, as is probably the case with most any other commercially available 28 gauge load.

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RST shells perform at the same level as any shells at their same velocity and shot load, and their "claim to fame" is their low pressures at similar velocities and shot loads to allow them to be used in Damascus barrel and other antique guns. If you have a modern gun with thick barrels, shoot any shells you can buy at the store.

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rst makes wonderful light loads that are easy on old guns and old shooters...however, rst shells are not necessarily safe in all damascus or twist steel barreled guns...to be safe, shoot black powder only in guns with non fluid steel barrels...

and 28 gauge guns with 3/4 oz. or lighter loads may not be the best choice for quick kills on ruffed grouse...i hunted grouse mostly in ny and pa in the seventies, eighties and nineties...never used a gun smaller than 20 gauge...a twenty sometimes would knock a bird down but not kill it out right...a 16 was always a quick, sure grouse killer...and a 12 bore sometime tore up the bird so much, as to leave it inedible...guns of choice had little or no choke...ammo of choice was factory winchester, remington and federal field loads...one ounce of 7 1/2 or 6's out of an opened choke 16 bore worked best for me...

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So, tell us all, ed, exactly how does a gun know if the 8000 psi load discharged within it was black powder or smokeless, so it can know whether or not to be damaged.

And while you're at it, tell me how a grouse knows whether it was shot with a 12 ga., a 16 ga., or a 20 ga. one ounce load, so it can quickly decide whether to be shot to pieces or only winged.

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Its like COVID, it knows when its in a church vs a Walmart!

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stan, you are acting like a jerk...again...


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Ed, Stan may stop acting like a "jerk" in response to your posts when you stop spouting nonsense. Because that is what you are doing. Your post MAKES NO SENSE!

Stan is simply pointing out HOW it makes no sense.


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the following is printed on every box of rst shells:

"WARNING:

Keep Out Of Reach Of Children (and guys like Stan)

1. To prevent injury to shooters or bystanders, use only in modern shotguns (not Damascus twist barrels, etc.) with proper gauge, load and chambers.

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with regard to grouse guns and loads...perhaps i did not make it clear that the ammo used during my observations were factory field loads of the period...

7/8 oz. 20 ga.
1 oz. 16ga.
1 1/8 oz. 12 ga.

if further explanation is required, think about it for awhile...


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