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Keith, I clicked on your links, the problem is, they're confusing things. Yes, they sell lumber, but they also mill the logs.

The examples you linked to, are descriptions of their milling process, not board classification. In your first link, near the top it says "discover more about sawn lumber", if you click on quarter sawn, the page has two actual pictures of a white oak board. The first picture is of end grain, that is a rift sawn board, the growth rings are neither parallel or perpendicular to the board, they're angled. The second picture is of an angle board view, that board is quartersawn, the rays are prominent, you can see the end grain of the board and the growth rings are perpendicular to the board, unlike the picture above it.

Under those pictures is an illustration of a log cut into plain and quarter sawn lumber. The boards in the logs they are saying are quarter sawn are being cut in the process they describe as rift sawing.

Like I said, theres two different terminologies at work here, and this company is confusing the two. This is like wood finishes, people in the business are loose and fast with information and they don't care if they confuse people.

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I was taught in For 311 wood technology at Purdue that SKB's illustration would be correct.

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Originally Posted By: Ol'Forester
I was taught in For 311 wood technology at Purdue that SKB's illustration would be correct.


Only Keith fails to understand that. I see a pattern. If SKB says water is wet I suspect Keith will scream dry.

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Tim, in the first link I provided, there are two pics of a board, not a log, that are labeled as rift-sawn. The end grain is quite clearly about 90 degrees to the face. I could give you many other similar sources and illustrations, and we could go back and forth forever.

I knew that Queen Stevie would be back with another illustration to prove me wrong. I could do the same, and I could also provide both of you with extreme contradictions in the definition of rift-sawn from wood merchants and sawmills. In fact, I have already done so in the other locked thread. No need to repeat facts here for those who wish to ignore facts.

I also know why KY Jon started this new thread. It has been sticking in his craw for days, that I had the audacity to say that part of a statement made by him, and quoted by Queen Stevie as Gospel, was incorrect.

I didn't simply say he was wrong, as Queen Stevie does. I also spelled out my reasons, and backed them up. So I am not at all surprised to see his butt-hurt reaction now. KY Jon is another guy like BrentD, who says he IGNORES all of my posts... but is also insincere and untruthful about that.

Stevie also cited KY Jon as an indisputable gun stock expert, yet you will never see Queen Stevie demand pictures of the work he does as proof of his skill or knowledge. And we all know why. Homeless jOe asked KY Jon for photographic evidence of his claims for years here, and never got a thing. I never commented on that... until now.


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Originally Posted By: KY Jon
Originally Posted By: Ol'Forester
I was taught in For 311 wood technology at Purdue that SKB's illustration would be correct.


Only Keith fails to understand that. I see a pattern. If SKB says water is wet I suspect Keith will scream dry.


That's far too funny, but also far to accurate to be funny.


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If Steve says water is wet the turd will float to the top and spoil the thread, again, and again.... Please stop.

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Originally Posted By: prairie ghost
If Steve says water is wet the turd will float to the top and spoil the thread, again, and again.... Please stop.


No, I think a good meltdown of every thread is in order. Seems keith thinks so. Just looking at the threads lately, it is pretty obvious. If anyone is spoiling threads again and again, who would that be? Same ol' same ol'


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Originally Posted By: BrentD
Just looking at the threads lately, it is pretty obvious. If anyone is spoiling threads again and again, who would that be? Same ol' same ol'




I know that BrentD must be talking about his boyfriend Queen Stevie... since ol' gutless BrentD claims to IGNORE my posts.

Poor Brent... another loser who is upset that his cowardly internet doxxing intimidation scheme didn't go the way he and his pals thought it would. Brent is still running his one-loser campaign to boycott funding of this site. He told us how much he hates it here, and how great the Upland Journal forum is, yet he is right here all day, every day. He must be a masochist or some other perversion.

I know that responding to these attacks makes me the bad guy. But if it makes Brent and his boyfriend cry, then I'm a happy guy.


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I own a WoodMizer and cut mostly mixed oak for railtoad ties, pallet material, some grade lumber. When I get to a really nice white or red oak, it will almost always be quartersawn. The difference between flat sawn and quartersawn lumber is night and day. From old gun books, I know the Circassian/Turkish walnut of the 1800s often went through several cuts. First as rough cants just to get it out of the country and onto a steamer bound for London, and then the cants were re-sawn into quartersawn dimension planks suitable for stock making. They air dried for years before being used. We make wooden tools and cutting boards from some of our best dimension wood, and it is incredibly stable. Really a joy to own. That is what I would want in all of my gun stocks


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Originally Posted By: pamtnman
I own a WoodMizer and cut mostly mixed oak for railtoad ties, pallet material, some grade lumber. When I get to a really nice white or red oak, it will almost always be quartersawn. The difference between flat sawn and quartersawn lumber is night and day.


Experience counts. I have seen the same with my trees, as has anyone that has cut trees with each method.


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