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Somewhere I've seen a photo of the Krag Highwall that Townsend Whelen owned and used for years, wonder what configuration it was.


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A Deluxe High Wall in .30 US. Unfortunately I don't have any other info, I must have been very busy when it came through the shop? It does look like a 30", #3 round barrel. I love the checkering pattern that modern Winchester kinda ruined with the M-70 Featherweight.


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Here's a Model 1885 that came up for sale recently. The original owner who special ordered it seems to have been intent on as light a weight big game single-shot as possible. I have never seen a low wall in a large caliber. This one tempted me to a very high degree. There are many aspects of this rifle that are very appealing:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/868298943

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When set up to conform with certain match rules, probably at Sea Girt and similar ranges, the sticking point would be sight radius. The normal rifle used in US military-rules matches 1900-1914 was the Krag with a 30" barrel, but with a sight radius closer to 26" or 27". On the HW, the 1901 or 1902 Krag sights were mounted close to the action, placing the tiny peep closer to the eye, an optical advantage. But the Winchester barrel needed to be shorter than 30" to meet the rules.

The match results were published in Shooting and Fishing, sometimes with equipment lists. Walter Hudson was normally listed as a member of the NJ National Guard team. W.Milton Farrow was listed as a member of the DC National Guard team. If they were shooting at 600 yards or greater, they may well have used their Winchesters.

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Originally Posted By: Boltman
Here's a Model 1885 that came up for sale recently. The original owner who special ordered it seems to have been intent on as light a weight big game single-shot as possible. I have never seen a low wall in a large caliber. This one tempted me to a very high degree. There are many aspects of this rifle that are very appealing:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/868298943


Beautiful rifle, but I'd not like to be within a 100 yds of anyone pulling the trigger on it. Too much for the low wall in my opinion.


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Originally Posted By: BrentD
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Here's a Model 1885 that came up for sale recently. The original owner who special ordered it seems to have been intent on as light a weight big game single-shot as possible. I have never seen a low wall in a large caliber. This one tempted me to a very high degree. There are many aspects of this rifle that are very appealing:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/868298943


Beautiful rifle, but I'd not like to be within a 100 yds of anyone pulling the trigger on it. Too much for the low wall in my opinion.


If it was barreled and chambered by Winchester I wouldn't be too worried. They pretty much knew what they were doing.

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Here's a Model 1885 that came up for sale recently. The original owner who special ordered it seems to have been intent on as light a weight big game single-shot as possible. I have never seen a low wall in a large caliber. This one tempted me to a very high degree. There are many aspects of this rifle that are very appealing:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/868298943


Beautiful rifle, but I'd not like to be within a 100 yds of anyone pulling the trigger on it. Too much for the low wall in my opinion.


If it was barreled and chambered by Winchester I wouldn't be too worried. They pretty much knew what they were doing.


"IF" and that's a very big IF. I do not believe that could be documented. And even so, the .38-56 is a necked down .45-70 case. There is a lot of consternation about even .38-55s in low wall actions.

At least it is a thick-tang action for what little good that will do. There are reasons for low wall actions and .38-56 is not among them.


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I don’t know how to make heads or tails of the authenticity, but there’s a Cody letter thrown in the mix.

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Nowadays it wouldn't be hard to fudge a factory letter. I can't imagine Winchester did that. On the other hand, they made lots of high walls in 22 Short. Go figure.


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I think the .38/56 is the real deal from Winchester. It's not difficult to do a phone check and verify that a museum letter is not a fake. It's my understanding that after the auction ended an experienced Winchester collector contacted the seller and purchased it. Again, I was sorely tempted. However, I didn't become aware of the auction until it had ended. It's my understanding that more than one Winchester collector contacted the seller after the auction ended. I believe that had happened by the time the auction ended, so I really didn't have a chance. A very very unique High Wall for sure. Light too - which seems the intent of the original purchaser.

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