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#572515 05/21/20 08:25 AM
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CZ, are you still good and above water?

I am hoping the best for everyone from MI involved in this flood. We don't get a lot of updates here.


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So far so good
Videos available on YouTube
Just look for Wixom lake dam


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Can this be true ?
Michigan Attorney General Nessel and Governor Whitless have their fingerprints all over the massive dam failures that destroyed so much of the Midland area.

Excellent article in Detroit Free Press. (Having problem loading link)

Federal regulators revoked the operating license for the Edenville Dam in September 2018 due to having inadequate spillway capacity, only able to safely pass 50% of the Possible Maximum Flood event. (PMF) The dam owner prudently lowered the lake level by 8 feet to provide storage capacity to "protect employees and downstream residents." At same time, Federal regulators ceded control and responsibility for the dam to the State of Michigan.

In April of 2019, the Michigan AG sued the dam owner for lowering the lake level without state permission, and illegally killing millions of endangered mussels. Dam owner refilled lake to full capacity. Back story was that thousands of upscale lakefront homeowners and the local county governments wanted the lake refilled to "Save Our Summer" and restore property values and tax revenue. The huge lake was quite shallow and the 8 foot drawdown created wide mudflats along all the shorelines.

May 2020 - the Possible Maximum Flood event occurred and without the extra storage capacity, the Edenville Dam overtopped and collapsed. Released flood waters destroyed the downstream Sanford dam and waters from both reservoirs raged downstream to Midland and on down the Saginaw River.


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As it happens, a fair number of people at my gun club live, or are used to live, on the lake.

It was the lakefront owners who did not want to pay an assessment to have a lake behind the Boyce power owned damn, that had only recently formed an authority to sell bonds to rebuild the dam.

This has been a more than a decade long argument.

Boyce lowered the lake level for safety and repairs, But the lakefront owners, through the Michigan Attorney General, sued to have the lake filled back up.

Understand, that the lake level has always been lowered in the fall, to prevent ice damage.

Its a shame, that the lakefront property owners had to drag their feet for years, before they came to the realization that if you want a lake you have to have the dam.

Now they have neither.

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Just another example of the 21st Century American ethic: "MY toys come first!" We will see more such results, I fear.

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Great coverage on Fox today. Damn that water looks full of ugly brown sediment. Don't know what is downstream, but hopefully a healthier, free flowing upstream section will result.

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All flood water is full of sediment.
That's why floods make such a mess.

What is downstream is the world's, that is WORLD's, best Walleye fishery.

The DOW chemical company's world headquarters is in Midland, MI, is straight downstream, and they got an awful rinse as well.

The river is rising here still, as the surge continues downstream.
The heavily damaged, Smallwood, and Sanford lake dams are holding.

My peak should be Friday.

Weather here is beautiful.

Smallwood dam over flow
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rLuZuUwCyRA

Wixom lake post burst
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SF0c1eyuiJs

Sanford dam
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TQKZZu4BnUc


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OK, been wanting to know,

Did the water come up to your yard?
Near the house?
In the house?
How deep?
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It was about 9 feet deep in front of my house, but then it went down, now its at about 2 feet and slowly rising.

Because the Sanford Lake dam did not buckle completely, theyre expecting about 2 foot less surge in my area.

So, if my ability to survey is accurate, It should come up in my front yard but should not enter the building.
In the one video, that curved bridge is the one that I just set last summer. So that water is 35 feet deep because it was 35 feet from the top of the bridge to the to the surface of the river.


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I really hope it doesn't enter the first floor of your house, CZ.

Best wishes friend. SRH


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