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Regarding the sticky opening problem. I experienced this with my Grulla 12 bore. I was loading AA hulls with WW 209 primers and the firing pins seemed to be dragging on the primer. I was advised to try Rem 209 primers in the AA's and the problem ceased.
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Stoneke,
Did you have to worry about pressures with that primer change?
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Regarding the sticky opening problem. I experienced this with my Grulla 12 bore. I was loading AA hulls with WW 209 primers and the firing pins seemed to be dragging on the primer. I was advised to try Rem 209 primers in the AA's and the problem ceased. I've proven what you've said (regarding switching to Rem primers) many times.
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Unless it's a competitive league situation I never will understand why more SxS owners don't commit to shooting them for most or all of their clay targets. Not talking this site as it's about all about doubles here, but there's no greater shooting thrill than being on your game with a SxS either in the field or at the range.
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BrentD,
All else being equal, switching from Winchester 209 primers to Remington's will generally result in lower pressure. They are 'softer' from a brisance perspective. They are also significantly higher, cost wise, than any other primer.
I'd not be concerned about that substitution in a published 7/8oz. load, but you can always have a few pressure tested for little expense, if you are concerned.
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Unless it's a competitive league situation I never will understand why more SxS owners don't commit to shooting them for most or all of their clay targets. Not talking this site as it's about all about doubles here, but there's no greater shooting thrill than being on your game with a SxS either in the field or at the range. Not being argumentative, Dave, just offering another perspective which, I highly suspect, is in the minority. I love my S X Ss, and have multiples more of them than my O/Us, pumps, and jammamatics combined. But, when I shoot clays I want to shoot the best score I can. Even when shooting with my buddies I want to be the high man on the squad. They all do, too. It is a given, over twenty years of experience, that I shoot 4-5 birds lower, on a 100 bird round, with my best S X S than with my MX8. If I shoot a great score with a S X S, I would have shot a higher score with the P gun, period. What I really do love is being the first off the dove field when using my S X S. Maybe I'm just too competitive. Some say that being that way takes away the fun ........ baloney. Nobody out there loves it any better than I do. When I shoot by myself I'm competing against me, constantly wanting to improve. Don't feel sorry for me, I'm happy as a hog in a wallow. Just another perspective, not necessarily carrying any weight. SRH
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BrentD,
All else being equal, switching from Winchester 209 primers to Remington's will generally result in lower pressure. They are 'softer' from a brisance perspective. They are also significantly higher, cost wise, than any other primer.
I'd not be concerned about that substitution in a published 7/8oz. load, but you can always have a few pressure tested for little expense, if you are concerned. Understood and makes sense. Thanks. I have never used or even seen recipes for Remington primers while surfing through recipes looking for low pressure loads. I've been going the Cheddite route for lowest pressure loads now.
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Unless it's a competitive league situation I never will understand why more SxS owners don't commit to shooting them for most or all of their clay targets. Not talking this site as it's about all about doubles here, but there's no greater shooting thrill than being on your game with a SxS either in the field or at the range. Not being argumentative, Dave, just offering another perspective which, I highly suspect, is in the minority. I love my S X Ss, and have multiples more of them than my O/Us, pumps, and jammamatics combined. But, when I shoot clays I want to shoot the best score I can. Even when shooting with my buddies I want to be the high man on the squad. They all do, too. It is a given, over twenty years of experience, that I shoot 4-5 birds lower, on a 100 bird round, with my best S X S than with my MX8. If I shoot a great score with a S X S, I would have shot a higher score with the P gun, period. What I really do love is being the first off the dove field when using my S X S. Maybe I'm just too competitive. Some say that being that way takes away the fun ........ baloney. Nobody out there loves it any better than I do. When I shoot by myself I'm competing against me, constantly wanting to improve. Don't feel sorry for me, I'm happy as a hog in a wallow. Just another perspective, not necessarily carrying any weight. SRH No problem, Stan. Just different strokes. If I shot clays in a highly competitive environment I'd want every advantage, too. I just find it so enjoyable to shoot my SxS's I want to shoot them year round.
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I wish very much that I could shoot mine as good as I can my O/Us. Wishing don't make to so, tho'.  SRH
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I take great pleasure in shooting my sxs, especially my hammer guns, at clays and at game. I realize I'm probably giving something up over a dedicated target gun for clays, but they make me smile when I do well with them in a way that my o/u shotguns never have. And you get a lot of conversations started when you turn up with a hammer gun on a skeet field.
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