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Here is the 12ga. Lessor know provincial maker, but a nice gun. 
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Brent, there's a notion, correct or not, that has been a topic of discussion that on a coveyrise, birds can be fringed and wounded with a 12 more than with a lighter load. ( I understand light 12 ga. loads. I handload them for a 12) The reason has been debated here and it ultimately boils down to "because the landowner said so." 16 gauges are permitted in these places. I heard of a fairly recent incident between acquaintances that resulted in a shouting match because a guest ignored the stated condition in the letter of invitation that no 12 gauges be used and the guest persisted in bring his 12 and argued with the landowner. It didn't go over well with the landowner and he wasn't persuaded. His land; his rules. Gil
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_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/qclHjMQ.jpg)
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Texsss: Very nice gun. And...cased even!
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ah man can neva hav too many gons, dogs an pick up trucks...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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I have also encountered this nonsense in our great state of Texas. Of course it is nonsense! I think the intent was to prevent dude’s from bringing their 12’s and using 1 1/4 oz of #9’s or whatever. And on that point I agree. It would be so much nicer if the landowner said something like “maximum of 1 oz shot and nothing smaller than #8 shot (my rules).” But that’s too complicated for most folks so they restrict the gauge. One extremely large ranch in South Texas allowed me to use my 12 gauge Parker when I convinced them the payload and lethality in mine was the same as their 20’s.
When an old man dies a library burns to the ground. (Old African proverb)
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One of the best guns hit ability wise I ever used on quail & woodcock was a 12 gauge with 28" Damascus barrels which I loaded with 1 oz of #8 shot @ about 1150 fps velocity. This gun weighed 6lb 14oz & was bored .010" choke (Ľ choke) in both barrels.
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Well, I absolutely hate loosing crippled birds. Seems to me it would be better to kill a bird cleanly with 1 1/4 ounce of shot than to cripple one with 7/8 or 1 ounce. Not that 7/8 can't do the job and I have never used 1 1/4 myself.
But I have never quail hunted in those high falutin circles and I know that is the tradition in some places.
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Some of these old plantations in SW Georgia are hidebound in tradition. A friend hunts an expensive wild bird plantation that accepts paying guess for a few hunts a year. Rather than wear blaze orange for safety, they wear white jackets similar to what waiters used to wear in restaurants. Mule drawn wagons, hunters on horseback, only shoot coveyrises, no singles. Gil
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