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If you have a desire to try a lightweight 32, keep your eyes open for a Petrik. I owned a couple of them in 16ga. Unlike the 32's, the Petriks were basically field guns rather than target guns. It's the best way I know of to come up with a lightweight 32 for relatively reasonable $. But there aren't a lot of Petriks floating around on the used gun market.

Stan, thanks for the anecdote about speed skeet. Speed skeet with an International delay is even more fun. The call of "pull" is given when the shooter is nowhere near the next station, hoping for a delay. If an instant target comes out when the shooter is only half way to the station, running is preferable to a fast walk. Unfortunately, I am way past my "Speed Skeet" days.

Completed work on the 16 gauge Remington 3200 today

Final fit of the ejectors was done. Now to shoot the

heck out of it on Monday morning

Yeeee Hawww

Thanks for the suggestion.

I�ve been looking for a Petrik for several years. No luck, so far.

Skeettx, can you explain exactly how you converted the 3200 to 16 gauge? Thanks.

They have not been mentioned in this thread, not surprisingly as they are mostly overlooked, but there is another gun with the 32 type lockup. That is the Valmet. Produced in Finland for years, there are numerous O/U guns still performing like new. They were (are, under the name Tikka) well made guns, extremely well made mechanically, and have been produced in O/U shotgun, combination shotgun/rifle, and double rifle O/U configurations. I shot a 32" Valmet for several years at registered sporting before going to my MX-8.

One interesting thing about the Valmets is their gun to gun uniformity of machining and fitting. Almost any set of Valmet barrels, of any configuration, seem to fit other actions made during the era, without hand fitting, and having excellent barrel to breech contact. I can't say that about any other double gun I have had any dealings with. It occasionally occurs with other brands, but in the case of the Valmet it seems to be the standard, rather than the exception.

Better trigger pulls on the 32 than the Valmet, as a general rule, but the Valmet has a very reliable trigger.

SRH

Stan, I would disagree with your exchangeability of other double gun barrels. I have been shooting a 687EELL Beretta for many years, at one time I had 4 different barrels that all were timed OK. Also exchanged barrels on a different 682 and my son's 680.

The Valmet's did not really take off with the target shooters, went to the same place as Rottweill's and so on....good guns, poor marketing etc....

The barrels were original factory un-bored , un-choked, and short chambered barrels

Fitted a barrel hanger.

Fitted the over size monoblock to the action

Then chambered the barrels for 3" 12 gauge and used Lothar Walther chamber adapters which were cut for ejector slots.

Then using old 12 gauge ejectors, welded them up and filed and milled them to fit both the barrels and the hulls.

Anyone wanting to try, here is a start

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/859515124

My K-20 extra barrel set in .410 had to be fitted.

The headspace was off by about .010".

Made in Germany, the home of all things precision.

They also cannot make firing pins that last.

I've had Beretta 680 series guns that would accept barrels from other 680 series guns, and others that would not.

Beretta never claimed they would interchange, and if you buy a set of Krieghoff barrels from DuPont (at least a new set) fitting is included and they ship the barrels to Ottsville to meet up with your gun.

Did Valmet/Tikka actually claim a drop in fit?

I think they did as well as BRNO 100 series

https://www.gunmart.net/gun-reviews/firearms/rifles/blast-from-the-past-tikka-valmet-412-512

Mike