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Thought this was about Ruffed Grouse. I may have missed it amongst all the I'll mannered banter, but science in my state and many others is looking at West Nile Virus as the root cause of the decline.

A controlled study showed a 1 in 10 survival of chicks inoculated. The survivors showed organ abnormalities in post study necropsies.

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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
....Any will hire and retain better staff and be open to advice and evidence....

All of your have been 'discussed' at length, and still they fit your talking points. Suffice it to say that no, they are not absolutes or universal truths. Why'd I snip out this one? Didn't, and it ties in with many of your 'advances'. Didn't sanders face a campaign staff revolt because he refused to pay anywhere near what he says should be minimum wage, worked them relentlessly and refused to pay over time, and refused to cover health care? Wasn't warren accused by, I believe, five campaign staff members of color for creating toxic, racist work conditions? Anomalies or hypocrisy, I think niether, but a clear factual indication of the integrity of supporters, eh?

My list? Explain why we have to be force fed 'woke'. Why we have to pay for abortions for transgender males. Who decided that all kids have to be steered towards college with bribes? How about your front runner, bern, admitting that all taxes, not just the 'rich', will necessarily go up for his single payer plan, yet you refuse to acknowledge it? How about impeachment, not about your feelings, but would you accept a speeding ticket if an officer told you that he got a call from a friend that said his friend saw you speeding? Seriously, does that line of thinking apply to you or your family?

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Ted, I'm no fan of Castro or Communists. All I said was he accomplished some specific things. That he did terrible other things things is not in dispute.


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Craig, it interests me that you cite staff treatment as a reason to reject certain Democrats. What about Trump's treatment of Col Vindman? Or John McCain? Or his students at Trump University? Or his wives re Stormy Daniels? No one competent and qualified can work with him.He can't bear to be contradicted. Every single thing he and his fans accuse others of are the very things he himself is the worst possible example of, and yet you tolerate him. At best, it's total denial; at worst it's mental illness. Here's a prediction: between now and November, former senior staff will have a lot to say about Trump's ability to do his job, and they will not be complimentary. Bernie's not your cup of tea, but he is honest and consistent and transparent. He may be wrong on an issue, but his heart is in the right place. Trump is wrong on most every issue and his heart is MOA.

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Originally Posted By: Harry Sanders
Thought this was about Ruffed Grouse. I may have missed it amongst all the I'll mannered banter, but science in my state and many others is looking at West Nile Virus as the root cause of the decline.

A controlled study showed a 1 in 10 survival of chicks inoculated. The survivors showed organ abnormalities in post study necropsies.


Harry, I'm with you. I'd like to know more about the roughed grouse issue. Unless there has been a big uptick in goshawks, I'm doubting predators. The West Nile thing is pretty interesting to me. What state are you in, and can you point a finger towards that study?


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Ted, if Castro actually did those things, how does saying so amount to praise. A major shortcoming for conservatives is the inability to make a logical argument or to distinguish between a simple statement and an endorsement.

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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Ted, if Castro actually did those things, how does saying so amount to praise. A major shortcoming for conservatives is the inability to make a logical argument or to distinguish between a simple statement and an endorsement.


There’s a finger for you BrentD. Just not the one you were expecting.


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Originally Posted By: BrentD


Harry, I'm with you. I'd like to know more about the roughed grouse issue. Unless there has been a big uptick in goshawks, I'm doubting predators.



First off, an Iowa State Ecology Professor who claims to be a bird huinter, but cannot correctly spell "RUFFED GROUSE" is certainly not intelligent enough to do anything except cling to his idiotic thoughts that bird eating predators such as hawks, owls, and coyotes have a negative impact upon game bird survival and populations.

Maybe he should go over to Upland Journal, where he says it is so much better. If it is so much better, why does this crybaby spend all day on this forum?


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Second, the idiot rocky mtn bill is flat out lying again, in order to continue supporting his anti-2nd Amendment Democrats.

It matters not one little bit if grouse populations recover if anti-gun and anti-hunting Democrats slowly or quickly destroy our gun rights and our hunting traditions.

Billy told you all lies when he claimed that it was Democrats that passed the Civil Rights Act that was signed by Lyndon Johnson. Ku Klux Klan Democrats fought tooth and nail against it, and it was passed by a majority of Republican votes in Congress. The earlier Civil Rights Act was also passed by Republicans.

Billy knows this because he has been informed in the past. But he chooses to continue lying about it when all it takes is a quick Google search to see who voted for and against.

He also lied about which party passed Woman's Suffrage, giving women the right to vote. He is also continuing the old tired Democrat lies about Social Security. Billy lied about Trump's support of the military as well. Trump was absolutely right to get the little snake Col. Vindman out of the White House after Vindman's false testimony in the Impeachment Hearings. Sen. John McCain was no friend to us, especially gun owners, and he was a RINO--- Republican In Name Only. Billy rails on about respect from the rest of the world when Obama was a joke that literally helped ISIS take over much of the Middle East while he did nothing. With Trump in power, we don't even hear about ISIS anymore.

rocky mtn bill knows nothing except what the DNC tells him to think. He is a brainless sock-puppet that doesn't even know what Bernie Sanders had to say about the Communist Dictator and murderer Fidel Castro. Billy is always insulting Conservatives about their perceived lack of knowledge, and says we get our information from the National Enquirer, yet he is clueless about where his anti-gun Democrat front-runners stand.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Ted, if Castro actually did those things, how does saying so amount to praise. A major shortcoming for conservatives is the inability to make a logical argument or to distinguish between a simple statement and an endorsement.


Bill, spend much time talking to Cubans? Talking to Cuban doctors?

I have a BIL who is a serious cyclist. Close to national team level when he was younger. Spends over 8 weeks a year in Cuba cycling because of the terrain and the weather. For well over 10 years now. Spends all his time with locals, not at resorts. He's had female doctors try to sleep with him as a method of getting out of the country. Imagine the conditions required to have a medical degree and still be reduced to prostituting yourself to try to escape the hell hole you are in. And let me tell you, doctors aren't the only ones willing to do anything to get out. My BIL is in his early 60's and has had mothers push their late teen daughters at him in the hopes of an escape from Cuba and a better life for them in Canada.

When are you going to tell us about the great things happening in Venezuela? Another socialist dream land.

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