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Honestly, I don’t know how you can live there, but, this seems like a good start:




https://www.oann.com/californians-are-looking-to-recall-democrat-gov-gavin-newsom/


Good luck.

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Some of the sunsets don't suck.


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Some have described Gruesome Newsom as an empty suit. Unfortunately, when he is wearing a suit, the suit is just a sack of crap.

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Delete duplicate post.

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It will never happen. Pelosi is Newson’s Aunt. Too much liberal political power in all areas of government. The examples of the madness would fill a book. The exodus of sane (conservative) people from the state is real. Two more years of work and I’m out.

I grew up in a much different California, it wasn’t always like this.

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From news reports it seems you can't walk the streets of SF or LA because of the homeless camps.




These people should be rounded up and put on poor farms like in years gone by. Teach them the virtues of productive work. Get them off the dole. What's wrong with our country?

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While CA, because of its size and national importance, might seem to be "the problem"...the reality is it's that mindset that's the problem. CA is just the penultimate example of what happens when it can run essentially unchecked.

But the same people who have done this to CA are in NY, MA, CT, NJ, IL, etc. And in great strength in urban pockets of othwrwise sane states...Madison, WI, Minneapolis, MN, Austin, TX, Boulder, CO...

And it's difficult to know how to show them their ideas don't work. Because they won't acknowledge where it is failing. They can't. To do so would invalidate lifetimes of belief.

So...5 decades into literally UNCHALLENGED Democrat control of Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, D.C. etc...the "problems" which ail them are still the fault of a boogie man they drove off 5 decades ago.

Here is the brutal truth:

Inequality: The two primary drivers of inequality in America have been (1) the Federal Reserve, unleashed post-Bretton Woods in pumping false prosperity by way of debt serfdom, and (2) globalization, which perverts and abets capitalism by off-shoring labor in favor of fatter profit margins for the benefit of the elites in charge, and similarly invested. There is NOTHING but upside for them in globalism, because in the coastal urban centers where they live (primarily), the underclass largely exists in the service sector, feeding further downstream in the same eco-system. It's the people who farm, and build, and employ trade skills with their hands who are expendable and forgotten.

Urban hipster beta males LOVE globalism too! It brings them cheap hipster clothing and technology (iPhones, laptops), ensures a constant underclass of service sector workers to drive them around in Ubers and cook their food, clean their tiny apartments, etc.

Now add to these two PRIMARY drivers -- The Fed and Globalization -- a slew of secondary factors, and you get the soup we are currently sitting in. Including, but not limited to:

Godlessness (which fosters all manner of moral inversion, subverting "goodness" in almost every endeavor)

Victimology (Balkanizing the populace, parsing them into groups to be pitted against each other, establishing angst amongst minorites by way of shiboleths, so that they simultaneously self-suppress, while becoming a reliable source of voting power, convincing young women that men are the root of every bad thing, etc.)

There's more but I wont go on.

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That is a thoughtful and excellent post, Nudge. If I differ on anything it would be that godlessness is no. 1. True Godliness is the way people are really changed for the better, and it trickles down into everything else.

Thanks for that. SRH


"With one foot in the grave ..........and one foot on the pedal, I was born a Rebel" T.P.
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Originally Posted By: Nudge
While CA, because of its size and national importance, might seem to be "the problem"...the reality is it's that mindset that's the problem....

There is a size consideration that can't be minimized. When the voting polls close on national election night, there won't likely be any wait for returns. All of kalis fifity-five electoral college votes will be awarded to the dem by all of the 'news' networks. Without breaking a sweat, the dem will be spotted more than 20% of the minimum needed to run the entire nation.

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Yes Craig, this is the Tytler Cycle.

Alexander Frasier Tytler

On democracy...

" It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."

While we are a Representative Republic -- NOT a Democracy (hence the value of the electoral college, and 2 senators for every state) -- his conclusions about human nature were prescient, given he uttered them in the 19th century.

NDG

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