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what about the new skb gas guns made in turkey?

how is recoil with light loads?


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So- eddie- you took a NID 10 gauge 3&1/2" Mag- and sleeved the barrels for a 28 gauge-- what are the chokes? Do you have any pictures of this aborted 28 gauge? How many wheelbarrows does it take to move it out to the skeet or dove fields? RWTF


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Ive got a bad right shoulder too and I shoot right handed. As mentioned above, I would recommend a gas gun too; however, I bought a Beretta A-400 with a kick off thinking that would solve my problems. While shooting the gun, it did seem like I was experiencing less recoil. But, the next day, my shoulder was just as sore as if I had been shooting a fixed breech gun. What I surmised is that my sore shoulder was receiving the same amount of energy no matter the gun, and the same amount of energy was just delivered differently in terms of time, dependent upon the action type. . The only way to reduce actual recoil is to get a heavier gun, less payload and less velocity of the projectile. In the final analysis, the only thing that really helped me was going to the gym and building up muscle around a compromised shoulder joint.


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I have rotator cuff and arthritic shoulder and just finished shooting my 125000 regestered target. A friend had me bend at the waist and let my right arm go staight down with a 10 pound weight. I then do 25 six inch circles right and left. Then I make 30 inch circles left and rightto a count of 25 . Within a week I was back shooting. A year later I still do the circles and it's not uncommon to shoot 200 target on a Saturday. NO pain.

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I bought my dad .410 inserts for his Beretta EL. It feels like a .22. He also shoots a Daly 20 ga O/U hes been shooting for decades. Even with shoulder problems, no problem. For rifle shooting, he uses my Rock River AR with a scope from the bench. All work well for him. At 80, he can still run 25 at skeet or trap. He recently used his LC Smith Field Grade to break 25 at trap. Pretty cool:)

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Depends on whether the bad shoulder is absorbing recoil or carrying/swinging gun weight.

A400 KO would be a good bet for either situation, or both. Many people have bilateral shoulder issues.

Tubed O/U has little recoil, but lots of weight out front that has to be held and swung.

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When I tore my rotator cuff a couple years ago, I looked for a couple of bird guns that would let me keep hunting if I decided to skip the surgery. Could not find Rem 1100s in the configuration I wanted, so I bought Win SX3s in 20 and 12, both field versions with 3" chambers. Very pleased with them. Soft shooting, generally reliable cycling with light loads, not too expensive. Not elegant, but very effective for my needs. The 12ga comes in a target version with 2-3/4" chamber.

Some months after I bought the SX3s, a friend sent me an article claiming that the Rem V3 is the softest shooting semi out there. The article had graphs, so it must be correct, eh?

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I would think the A400 in 20g is a good bet. It is lighter than the 12. With the kickoff system and 7/8 oz. it is light and soft and if hunting you could go to one ounce.


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sounds like a solution to my problem could be going to a 12 ga a400 and muscle development around the affected area...gotta believe the additional weight of the 12 ga vs 20 ga a400 would result in less felt recoil...i like bill's exercise routine. simple and effective. will give it a try...

as to heavy 28 gauge nid kit gun... owner, he loves it...hardly any felt recoil with skeet loads and tolerable recoil with heavy pheasant loads...

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