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I've been shooting steel for years in my Miroku/Daly. Fixed chokes IC&M. No Problems...Geo

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Those guns are Cadillacs, Geo. How about same chokes, 7,000 psi-range handloads in my Parkers and Elsies, assuming proper condition and dimensions. I've a F/F 12 VH I'd love to try!

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Why not consider the Stevens 411 Upland Sporter. If you must shoot steel, you might as well have a SXS that is built like a T34 tank. Come to think of it the Stevens 411 Upland Sporter is built in Russia... a country with an interesting and ancient sporting tradition, quite unlike Turkey or Japan.

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Hello All,

Thanks for the tips/ideas. My older ones are a '47 LC Smith Field, and a '60 JP Sauer Model 60 Deluxe. Both have Mod/Full chokes.

I have a '15 Parker Trojan that someone beat with an ugly stick. I mean, a high-comb replacement stock was grafted into the original. At least, that is what it looks like. I kind of like the lost art aspect of the stock.

The muzzle was cut down also, and measurements show something like improved cylinder/cylinder, or such.

Since there is so little choke, I thought of steel here, but don't want to ruin it any more.




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bczrx: it is already steel and bismuth only in California


I know all hunting requires this, but the outdoor ranges I am familiar with allow lead for clay/target/recreational shooting. Of course, I am not in L.A., or the Bay Area.

If steel were the only shot allowed for recreational shooting, why is Walmart still selling so much lead value-pac ammo?

thanks again all!


Classic 'field' SxS's are what draw me in- that way I can have more than one!
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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Weight is no penalty in a duck blind, carrying afield another thing.


I agree. My favorite duck gun has 32" barrels and weighs over 9 1/2 lbs., loaded. I went 6 for 6 with it one morning last season. Four mallards, one gaddie and a widgeon.

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["I've a F/F 12 VH I'd love to try!" King Brown]

Don't use steel in it King. Bismuth will open your eyes after shooting steel at ducks...Geo

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That's all I'm shooting, Kent's TM and bismuth, Geo. Won't chance steel and will make sure the old Americans pass on to right hands. Thanks.

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I shot an SKB 100 12ga 26" IC&MOD with steel from the 70's until I started to phase out all my single trigger shotguns. It worked great.

I switched to two trigger doubles and most of mine were older and shot ITX shot for all my non-toxic stuff. I ran into a range that had gone to non-toxic and started to also shoot some places that I was going to be in the higher volume shooting non-toxics, doves, snipe and coots. So I did the same thing picked up a CZ Bobwhite 20ga.

The CZ Bobwhite is a nice little shotgun, mine is a 26" 20ga. I'm short in stature so the stock got cut an inch and is a nice handling little shotgun. It kills clay birds and doves well with Win steel target 7's and coots and teal with Kent upland steel 5's, I buy both of these by the case.

I suspect that just about any stoutly built sxs with the chokes opened to Modified or less should work fine. I say stoutly built as there aren't any mild factory steel loads.


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Would any of you recommend lengthening forcing cones for steel? I believe that would relieve some of the pressure of steel shot loads and perhaps reduced potential for long-term damage.


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Brent, I believe the jury is still out on the effect of lengthening forcing cones. Some say it reduces felt recoil, but I don't know any reason it should. I doubt it would affect pressure very much right outside the chamber like that. Some of the smarter guys around here (including you) most likely understand the issue far better than I...Geo

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