doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com OT: Notre Dame de Paris burning

Isis destroyed Palmyra because they are intolerant. As are you. Any comparison was only pointing that out.
It is not necessary for me to tar you to illustrate that.

Best,
Ted

Well Ted, if my belief that humanity should be above having to rationalize fairy tales for the sake of an imaginary afterlife while turning a blind eye to the point of condoning child molestation... Color me intolerant! I just can't tolerate that. I know, I know... thats a character flaw around here where we are oh so very tolerant of others.

Yabut nca, if it was built as a temple to fairy tales and child molestation, can you figure out why your buddies the French are rebuilding it? Don't knock it just yet, it may turn out looking like a temple for you true believers, the religion of leftism. If they display phallic silicone art in vats of urine, will you make an annual pilgrimage to worship with the like minded tolerant?

Sorry I started this line. I have French spouse, sons, in-laws and what happens there affects me. The fire probably was an accident but it is an unexplained accident. I was extremely upset and with the daily demonstration of how centrally controlled from Paris France really is, right down to having news anchors fired because Brigette didn't like them, or being able to ban grocery store sales because "it might hurt the farmer," I was skeptical that a clear accident investigation would get to the bottom of anything.

But I didn't mean to start a political spitting match yet again. Let's wait to see what comes out. Right now there is a lot of anger in the French...and they want to hear more from the 32 year old whose firm was one of the ones working on the building. I know that in Washington DC, you start renovating a building, you'll have a fire extinguisher every 5 yards. I somehow doubt that this intense obsession with safety applies in Europe. In the meantime, let's wait and see.

And no one here supports ISIS or terrorists. Since I started this mess...I suppose I could delete it...but I learned something about welding I must say...and about lead.

Let me take a crack at it! Plow Notre Dame under and make it a park. It doesn't get my knickers in a knot. I see where it comes from. It's an opinion. One of Canada's most distinguished radio broadcasters said on national radio and to the world the Roman Catholic Church is "the biggest criminal organization in the world outside the Mafia."

Not a peep. I like to think his listeners have pretty good critical judgement. We also know that, as a cultured person, Michael Enright would see much to admire in the Church, its organizational skills and traditional role as champion of the poor. I think the same way. Notre Dame is more than a church to the world, as is the wall in Arlington more than a monument to a nation's sacrifice to me.

I'd like to think we've outgrown the notion of simple solutions to everything.

Yes. You might have gathered that from my comment about looking at the windows from the stone floor.

Mike

Sources: Jack J. Murphy, chairman of the Fire Safety Directors Association of Greater New York; Jim Lygate, visiting professor of fire investigation at University of Edinburgh; Guillermo Rein, professor of fire science at Imperial College London.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/17/world/europe/notre-dame-cathedral-fire-spread.html

I think you have generously shared some of the best of traditional French culture in a personal way. You are a fortunate man. I challenge you to reread nca's comments and conclude that they're trivial, he's speaking his truth.

Notre Dame de Paris is owned by the French Republic...the state. It is part of the patrimony and history of France itself. It is a holy site. it is also the equivalent of the Washington Monument, Independence Hall, and the US Capital building all rolled into one. And for 1000 years you could not understand France without understanding the three legs of French society...the King (state), the Army and the Catholic Church.

To advocate "plowing it under"....and French revolutionaries did so...as the Bolsheviks did in Soviet Russia...would be the equivalent of Madame Mao's banning of Chinese culture during the Cultural Revolution. It would be Philistine vandalism and sacrilege.

Trolls are trolls. They contribute nothing intellecutually but provocation. I started this line because of my respect for France and its culture and contribution to humanity. It is now devolved into mindless political vomit. Have a nice day.