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Sure that wasn't photoshopped? Mark Arie without a Marlin pump?

Mark has his Marlin in this team picture --


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Mark Arie used his Marlin Model 28D (introduced in 1913) in the Olympic games. The gun and Olympic medals are shown on p. 396 in Marlin Firearms: A History of the Guns and the Company That Made Them by William S. Brophy but is mislabeled as a Model 43 which was not introduced until 1922.

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But was the first shooter to run 100 straight doubles from scratch when he broke the first 163 in a 200-bird race at the Great Western Handicap at the Denver Municipal TC on July 18, 1926 with his Smith



BTW: Troeh's Smith in that image was not his Crown grade; HOT and AE, Schnabel BTFE and Monte Carlo stock, no safety and 2 7/8" chambers. Research by Dr. Jim showed the gun to have been consigned to Troeh in March 1928. It is not known if he used the gun to win the Grand American Doubles in 1928 (after winning in 1927).
Interestingly, the gun was return to Hunter Arms March 31, 1929, then sold to J.R. Graham (Gold Medal at the 1912 Olympics) in Sept. 1930.

Troeh mostly used a Model 12 on singles



Bart Lewis had the high average in 1922 and won the Grand American Doubles in 1926. He shot a Crown grade Double Barrel Trap with 32" Whitworth steel barrels, Hunter One-Trigger, and a straight grip stock.

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Did Mark Arie have a nickname? Seems to me I heard one for him, like "Old Fritz" for Fritz Gilbert.. RWTF


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Granny Clampett was mostly filmed with a long barrel double in The Beverly Hillbillies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpuW-aREDgA

and in "The Clampetts Shoot Skeet" episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cztm3A50yGs

Ellie May's double



but the opening sequence has Granny carrying a shorter barrel double, which has been IDd


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Drew,
Ellie May's looks to have cocking indicators on sideplates and semi pistol grip. Must be a Lefever DS grade.
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Good eye Jeff. Wish I knew.

Granny's shotgun in the opening sequence was a 24" 'The Continental' by Simonis, Janssen & Dumoulin

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RWTF I came late to this thread, but the hit man in Bullitt was using a Winchester M97 in the hotel hit, and why wouldn't he be using the same in the car chase scene. That Winchester M97 must have been "Special Ordered" as it had shells in the magazine tube with the barrel off, as I remember, when he put it together. With my M97 you cannot take the barrel off with shells in the tube, and if you try and load the tube with the barrel off, they all run out on the floor. But hey, it's the movies,and Bullitt is also my favorite, and I believe the first modern movie to start all the "chase scenes" that followed.
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Nice observations, Dennis. If someone wants to watch a movie in which the gun stuff is usually on target (but with typical Hollywood tampering with history), John Milius always seemed to be pretty careful about that.

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Bullitt chase scene (with a recurring green VW wink )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no7XR7s8Z7o

the hit man loads his M97 in part 2 at about 2 min.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Sd-qZNdxc

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Thank you, Dennis- But remember, McQueen wasn't in the cheap hotel top floor room when the hit man came in with the cut-down M97-- His only view of this "alley sweeper" was when he was in the car chase scene- and got the Mustang variant he drove (he did all his own driving scenes in that movie)- and later recounting the incident to his Captain- mentioned "Winchester pump"- didn't really specify the M97- just Winchester pump-

You are right about the magazine in that Hollywood shotgun, all my 7 M12's ( I recently sold a 12 M97-only one I owned)-- you cannot dis-assemble the gun with rounds in the magazine- so my guess is, the Hollywood studio armorers must have modified that M97-- although they show the bad guy in the car scene thumbing two 3 hulls into the magazine, before peppering McQueen's windshield with OO buck.

I'm by no means a "gunsmith" as you are- and if I were younger, would love to take one of your 1 week courses in the summer. I was an armorer in the military (parts changer) but my main "trade" has always been welding, specializing in the TIG process. Do I understand correctly that you are versed in this process and use it in your profession?

Thanks again for your most insightful reply.. RWTF

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