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Kinda of a my shot is smaller than your shot version....

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jOe, seriously, why do you care about what others are hunting with?

I'm perfectly prepared to accept you are a hell of a call maker and most likely a far better turkey hunter and caller than I will ever be. So I'm not calling into question your skill or resume. I simply wonder why this particular subject gets you so wound up. It's like Pavlov's dogs. Ring the bell of TSS and watch jOe come running.

I mean, maybe I'm missing something but it's like someone who hunts with setters being hell bent on telling everyone who hunts with pointers they are doing it wrong. (They are but that's another issue! Hahaha!)


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I don't care...they care.

I shot the 4x5x7 Hevi shot loads for a few years. I thought performance wise they were bull...a pellet as small as a #7 cant be depended on to take up any slack when it comes to killing a bird as big and tuff as a turkey.

Just talk about facts and they attack.

Little pellets...little man syndrome.

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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
I don't care...just talk about facts and they attack.

Little pellets...little man syndrome.


Really? You don't care?

Why then did you respond to John's posted video the way you did? And why did you have Dave delete some of those very early posts in this thread? That's curious behavior from someone who claims not to care and calls others "whiners".

I started reading this thread at 4 am yesterday morning. So I've seen and read all the posts. Pavlov rang the bell and you came running. So instead of dodging my question, why not answer it truthfully. You too, Buzz. Why the need to crap on others for the way they legally hunt?

By the way Buzz, please note I have been respectful and straightforward with jOe here so far. I've dealt in facts and posed reasonable questions.

Edit to add: I note that you added to your post since I read it and quoted you. They didn't come running and attack you....you attacked them. You reject their reasoning out of hand with no first hand experience, by your own admission. They have all started with big guns and loads of lead and have opted for switching and given detailed explanations as to why.

What's the problem?

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Sometimes I wonder if I ever left the seventh grade.

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Originally Posted By: Mike A.
Sometimes I wonder if I ever left the seventh grade.


You did, but frank keeps dragging you and the rest of us back there.


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CB: Frankly, I could care less what they hunt with. My only questions were why TSS when lead is so effective and cheap? , why use a .410, is it for bragging rights (I still think likely so, even if only to brag to ones self, the exception being a young child or girl)?, and it does appear there is a push by the ammo and firearms companies to sell these products. I do know lead #4s are extremely effective on turkey and seem sufficient. I really do believe all this new stuff is only a quest for a better or different mouse trap. But, no I dont care what other people legally hunt with. Besides, if there was total agreement on these issues, then we would have nothing to discuss....no intercourse whatsoever, and how BORING would that be. Also, since I personally know jOe, I see him in a different light than many of you. Here, he is a misunderstood individual imho. I know him as a genuine and generous person. Many of you would too if you had the chance to meet in person. With that in mind, and as an expert with the turkey hunting, I believe his opinion on this issue matters.


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Originally Posted By: Mike A.
Sometimes I wonder if I ever left the seventh grade.


Sometimes I wish I never left the seventh grade.


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Originally Posted By: buzz
CB: Frankly, I could care less what they hunt with. My only questions were why TSS when lead is so effective and cheap? , why use a .410, is it for bragging rights (I still think likely so, even if only to brag to ones self, the exception being a young child or girl)?, and it does appear there is a push by the ammo and firearms companies to sell these products. I do know lead #4s are extremely effective on turkey and seem sufficient. I really do believe all this new stuff is only a quest for a better or different mouse trap. But, no I dont care what other people legally hunt with. Besides, if there was total agreement on these issues, then we would have nothing to discuss....no intercourse whatsoever, and how BORING would that be. Also, since I personally know jOe, I see him in a different light than many of you. Here, he is a misunderstood individual imho. I know him as a genuine and generous person. Many of you would too if you had the chance to meet in person. With that in mind, and as an expert with the turkey hunting, I believe his opinion on this issue matters.


frank, you haven't been paying attention, if you have to ask those questions. They have been answered many times.

And, of course, you see yourself in a different light. You just need to spend more time looking in the mirror. 'Cuz you ain't pretty. Not here, not anywhere on the internet that you set down and start posting.

And yes, you obviously care a lot about what other people hunt with. Your second and third sentences are questions to exactly that effect. You contradict yourself in a single paragraph.

And on the topic of self-contradictions, you are now claiming "as an expert with the turkey hunting, blah blah blah..." when you had just recently in this thread stated you were NOT an expert on turkeys, but only experty in quails and grouses. Please make up your mind. You are big on telling other people about their expertness. Please make up your mind on your own expertness. Then, let us all know once and for all.

Thank you for your time in this matter. It matters immensely.

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