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A few more images for those who prefer not to go to the linked image:     Cheers, Raimey rse
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It kind of looks like the L. Hausmann was added to the gun at a later date??
I learn something every day, and a lot of times it's that what I learned the day before was wrong
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Yeah, I'm sort of leaning that way also.
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ellenbr,
The one thing we do know about this double gun, is that it has a real nice set of Krupp Barrels on her.
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Yes, interesting steel type stamp w/ the dots fore & aft along w/ the block Gs on most components. I believe the Gustloff Werke Suhl( Berlin-Suhler-Waffen- und Fahrzeugwerke Simson & Co.)either was a part of the Sachsengruppe(konsortium??) or had Sachsengruppe groups to source from. I'm sure the tubes were completed in Suhl but I wonder if they were rolled in Suhl or sourced from Liege or another member of the Sachsengruppe?
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ellenbr,
Raimey I do believe you are correct the gun is probably a Gustloff Werke and maybe an early one, just because of the Krupp identification type on the Barrels.
In reality it really does not matter where the tubes were rolled, its the Krupp metallurgical process that is really important. I have seen the dots fore & aft on early Krupp barrels before, especially on J.P. Sauer and son's, Suhl produced double guns. With that in mind, more than likely the Krupp barrels on this particular old gun, were most likely rolled in Suhl. However we will probably never actually know.
The old German double gun with it's high grade Krupp barrels is a darn nice Boxlock, especially if the gun is a Gustloff Werke.
RGD/Dave
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Dave:
Well it really does matter to me as the bulk of the tubes used in Suhl were rolled on the backs of the mechanics @ Liege(well figuratively and not literally; well maybe literally). We've run down the trademarks/protections filed by the Suhl compagnies in Belgium & we've seen the same tube touchmarks on Liege offerings as in Suhl; well the ones that weren't worked off the tubes. From circa 1900 till WWII the Germans pretty much had control of Liege, at least the larger concerns where they could source the raw components, which were cheaper in Liege. And it was all about the Benjamins of course. I can't call a German authority on pre-WWII sporting weapons that would say that Suhl blanks were rolled in Suhl.
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ellenbr,
Raimey roger that!
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