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Yeah, I know. If you don't like it, hit your 'back one page' button.

MGW sent me an e-mail for a discount on all things Timney.

I bit on the 'trigger fix' kit for the 870/110 since I still have a few of those and only one satisfactory trigger group.

This comes with a sear and three springs to select from as well as an adjustment feature. It appears aimed at the slug shooting crowd.

It works just peachy. It turned a 5 pound crummy trigger into a 2 3/4 pound pretty decent trigger. Tiny bit of slack, but no creep. Nifty mod.

I remember the fun we used to have trying to improve the 1100 triggers by cutting down the sear springs and using brass to shim the trigger pivot tube. Usually resulted in a single shot or a zero shot when the spring got too light to reset the disconnector.

This takes care of that. I've fired the gun 100 times in repeater mode with zero malfunctions. Wish I had this mod 35 years ago and Titewad powder too. That stuff is the greatest for gasclackers. Whistle clean.

One word on installation. Remington appears to have staked the sear axle on SOME of the trigger groups. Naturally, the one I wanted to convert was one that was staked. It takes a very small Dremel burr to grind the staking out before you can push the pin out. The carrier assembly also has to be removed so you can push the sear axle out from the inside of the hole where the carrier dog spring lives. It's not at all difficult to install, but if your axle is staked there's a bit more work to do.


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Nice report sir, have fun with your gun!

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I sure wish they made one for a Winchester SX2. I won the Sporting model in a shoot several years ago and shoot it well, except I despise the trigger. They don't show one for any Winchester shotgun, on their website. I guess I'm going to send it to my trigger man in TX, when he returns my last job I sent him.

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Timney even has a video on you tube




I ran up on an older left handed Wingmaster and the trigger sucks

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I had an 870 Supermag that came with a trigger that was over 10 pounds and had a lot of creep. The gun was unusable, so I decided to get a Timney kit. I saw the video that jOe linked and decided to take it apart and look at it before ordering.

The mating surface on the sear was extremely rough. I took the finest stone from a knife sharpening kit and spent about 2 minutes just smoothing it a little. Put it back together and I couldn't believe how much difference that little bit of smoothing made to it. The trigger was down to about 5 lbs and most of the creep was gone. It was suitable for my purpose so I never bought the kit.

I'm not promoting amateur trigger jobs, but that was an example of a tiny bit of work making a gun usable. I remember thinking how stupid it was of Remington to not spend a few more pennies in production of the gun to make it something you could actually use. No wonder they went BK.

The rest of the gun was ok. I loaned it to my son in law and he killed his first turkey with it, so I gave it to him. He has been using it 6 or 7 years now and really likes the gun.

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I have an 870 SuperMag (Express) which won't extract and eject fired RGL's, but will extract and eject fired Winchester promos. The 870 Express bears only a surface resemblance to the 870 Wingmaster. They aren't the same. Gil

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I have put this trigger kit in 2 870's and one 760. It made all of them much better shooters. The 760 went from a guess when it went off to a I know when it will let off.
I like this kit a LOT.


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Originally Posted By: coosa
I had an 870 Supermag that came with a trigger that was over 10 pounds and had a lot of creep. The gun was unusable, so I decided to get a Timney kit. I saw the video that jOe linked and decided to take it apart and look at it before ordering.

The mating surface on the sear was extremely rough. I took the finest stone from a knife sharpening kit and spent about 2 minutes just smoothing it a little. Put it back together and I couldn't believe how much difference that little bit of smoothing made to it. The trigger was down to about 5 lbs and most of the creep was gone. It was suitable for my purpose so I never bought the kit.

I'm not promoting amateur trigger jobs, but that was an example of a tiny bit of work making a gun usable. I remember thinking how stupid it was of Remington to not spend a few more pennies in production of the gun to make it something you could actually use. No wonder they went BK.

The rest of the gun was ok. I loaned it to my son in law and he killed his first turkey with it, so I gave it to him. He has been using it 6 or 7 years now and really likes the gun.


I've been down that road, coosa. You take something apart to see what is wrong with it and realize there is nothing about it that is complicated, then fix it. The first diesel engine I ever saw the inside of was a JD 4020. Coolant had gotten into the oil. I tore it down, found that the cylinder sleeve seals had failed, and rebuilt it. It's still running some 40 years after my rebuild.

Sometimes it's just a matter of accepting what you don't know, finding the answers, and being willing to work outside your comfort zone.

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Originally Posted By: Stan
Originally Posted By: coosa
I had an 870 Supermag that came with a trigger that was over 10 pounds and had a lot of creep. The gun was unusable, so I decided to get a Timney kit. I saw the video that jOe linked and decided to take it apart and look at it before ordering.

The mating surface on the sear was extremely rough. I took the finest stone from a knife sharpening kit and spent about 2 minutes just smoothing it a little. Put it back together and I couldn't believe how much difference that little bit of smoothing made to it. The trigger was down to about 5 lbs and most of the creep was gone. It was suitable for my purpose so I never bought the kit.

I'm not promoting amateur trigger jobs, but that was an example of a tiny bit of work making a gun usable. I remember thinking how stupid it was of Remington to not spend a few more pennies in production of the gun to make it something you could actually use. No wonder they went BK.

The rest of the gun was ok. I loaned it to my son in law and he killed his first turkey with it, so I gave it to him. He has been using it 6 or 7 years now and really likes the gun.


I've been down that road, coosa. You take something apart to see what is wrong with it and realize there is nothing about it that is complicated, then fix it. The first diesel engine I ever saw the inside of was a JD 4020. Coolant had gotten into the oil. I tore it down, found that the cylinder sleeve seals had failed, and rebuilt it. It's still running some 40 years after my rebuild.

Sometimes it's just a matter of accepting what you don't know, finding the answers, and being willing to work outside your comfort zone.

SRH


Indeed.

And the internet has been a wonderful tool to help me understand how things work and give me the confidence to tackle a job I really don't know how to do. I would have never tried the 870 trigger without the video, but after watching it I realized it was easy. I repaired a 36 volt battery charger a while back after watching a YouTube video that explained how to test it. That was beyond my skill level, but the guy gave great directions that I could easily follow.

There is also good info available that warns you about jobs that are too difficult for the amateur to try. I did some reading on several forums a few years back and determined that my grandfather's 311 was something I didn't need to tackle. I sent it to a gunsmith who made it shootable again.


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