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eeb #518373 07/15/18 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: eeb
Question is, are Purdey knives legal in London?


Probably not, but then again, the police are too busy (hopefully) chasing those who carry knives with bad intentions to bother with the law abiding.

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Must be a sad place to live. I can carry any type knife I want with any length blade, concealed, in GA since I have a CCL. If the blade is not over 5" anybody can carry it concealed without a CCL.

My self-opening "deacon's meeting knife" is completely legal.



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And all we get in exchange for being so sad is, like the rest of western Europe, approximately a fifth the chance of being murdered as in the US. If you believe being armed prevents crime, the natural difference may be much greater. Don't mix up which came first, the chicken or the egg. The law arises because people think killing people is not quite the thing.

It would be legal to own any of the Purdey knives, but not to carry them in places and activities where they don't have some reasonable use, or to advertise them as suitable for combat.

Many dealers, ranging from ironmongers to mostly provincial "gunmakers" who never made a gun, bought in complete guns from the Birmingham or Belgian trade, and had them engraved with their names. Quality dealers, famous under their own names, rarely did so from Belgium, but my guess is that more of them had a basic Birmingham line than didn't.

My sidelock Gibbs, made around the time the modern shotgun was perfected in the 1890s, has steel barrels made by Webley, for a gun made by Gibbs. My guess is that that meant the tubes, rather than a part-finished assembly. Conversely there was a time, I don't know how long, when nobody but Gibbs made their own Farquharson actions, and everybody else's were bought as unfinished parts from Belgium.

The Colt factory, for example, made all of every Colt, and nothing but Colts. In contrast the Birmingham and Liège trade operated by an immensely complex network of the firm's factory work, subcontractors, outworkers etc. A self-employed tradesman might rent bench space etc. in the factory, and sell anything from all to none of his product to his host. I may have scratched the surface of the complexities which existed. My Webley-made barrels happen to be identified by a serial prefix, but most weren't, and the knowledge may be locked up in dusty ledgers, or gone forever.

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Believe whichever reports you want to. This one says different, comparing London and NYC.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/20/london-now-dangerous-new-york-crime-stats-suggest/

Our differing views of liberty is the reason we are today a nation of our own, and not a colony.

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New York of course deserves great credit for a great reduction in violent crime in recent decades, which owes much to policing and prosecution policies, and gun control, much like London's.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44807271

It is much the same with the occupational injury and road traffic death rates. Thinking death is a bad thing, other people's even, seems to be a help.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupational_injury#United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

You have to admire Australia, Canada and New Zealand for the amicable way they made their escape.

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Originally Posted By: bonny
Originally Posted By: eeb
Question is, are Purdey knives legal in London?


Probably not, but then again, the police are too busy (hopefully) chasing those who carry knives with bad intentions to bother with the law abiding.


Tell that to Dan Nightingale.

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Originally Posted By: Mr. Standfast
New York of course deserves great credit for a great reduction in violent crime in recent decades, which owes much to policing and prosecution policies, and gun control, much like London's.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44807271

It is much the same with the occupational injury and road traffic death rates. Thinking death is a bad thing, other people's even, seems to be a help.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupational_injury#United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

You have to admire Australia, Canada and New Zealand for the amicable way they made their escape.


New York deserves credit for being much like London...I think you've lost your dam mind.

No one has to agree and no one with any sense would ever admire Australia, Canada or New Zealand for any of their bull chit gun laws.


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New Zealand is very pro gun, except for handguns which are tightly controlled. It is easier to buy a gun in NZ than the USA once you have you firearms card. They do the research before they issue you the card, once you have it you can buy long guns as you like. No delays, no limits on numbers. A wonderful country full of great people, unlimited sporting opportunities and delicious food and drink. I look forward to my return.


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Originally Posted By: Stan
Believe whichever reports you want to. This one says different, comparing London and NYC.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/20/london-now-dangerous-new-york-crime-stats-suggest/

Our differing views of liberty is the reason we are today a nation of our own, and not a colony.

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Won't be long before the English language is changed in England to some islamic gibberish....

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Originally Posted By: Mr. Standfast
New York of course deserves great credit for a great reduction in violent crime in recent decades, which owes much to policing and prosecution policies, and gun control, much like London's.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44807271

It is much the same with the occupational injury and road traffic death rates. Thinking death is a bad thing, other people's even, seems to be a help.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupational_injury#United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

You have to admire Australia, Canada and New Zealand for the amicable way they made their escape.


I think real understanding of cause and effect would confirm that NYC gun regs have little to do with any crime reduction and the drop in crime rates have much more to do with policing policies and practices. Don't have to look hard....the reduction and it's cause have been widely celebrated and copied with similar effect. And which way is London's crime rates going? Yes, they have historically been lower than NYC and we know NYC's have dropped precipitously over the last 3 decades but what's happening in London. I don't think it's staying static and I don't think it's dropping.

Can't speak for Australia and NZ but Canada's escape from British direct rule had a lot more to do with Britain looking to get out of the responsibility than any methodical "escape" that soon to be Canadians planned.

Glib responses like "much like London", 'thinking death is a bad thing" or "amicable way they made their escape" rarely reveal the truth.


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