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Brent;
The majority of my Black Powder use has been in muzzle loaders. With them just make certain the Card wad is a good tight fit & there is no problem with "Blow By" to ignite ant thing in front of it. When loading black for a breech loader it is essential the wad column is long enough to bridge the gap across the forcing cone, from the shells end to the actual bore diameter & that the hard card is a tight fit to the bore.
As I said I have not used plastic wads with black, but have simply never had a problem with Smoldering fiber wads when seated over the proper card wad in a proper chamber for their use. This of course eliminates long cones, much oversize bores & shells shorter than the chamber.


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2-piper, I have 3 times started a fire with a .45-70. Albeit, I was shooting prone. I have shot a fair amount of bp shotguns with fiber wads, but wanted the convenience of plastic shot cups, but that just has not worked out for me.

As for fire, I may be overly cautious (not something I am often accused of), but I don't want to be the guy that started a fire that turns a quarter of Iowa corn into popcorn and burns down 50 farmsteads. Just not worth the risk given that I have started fires with the .45.


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What top gun said. Although, I just use hot tap water with a little soap. I've been using a nylon brush after the soak, and the heated barrels do dry right out.

(I shoot muzzle loader now, and so I go through this a couple of times a week. It's painful pour that water down the barrels that first couple of times, but once you get the hang of it, it's okay.)

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On the plastic removal question. Some years ago I shot maybe 100 foreign 28 gauge shells one afternoon. Not black powder, but very dirty. At clean up time I found the bores were coated with plastic as well as the powder residue. A bronze brush, probably oversized, and Hoppe's 9 did not seem to help much so I put the brush on an electric drill. That helped some, but still the plastic mostly stuck. Finally, I tightened the cleaning rod and bronze brush joints and ran the drill backward. The plastic then just augured out .

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I've been doing cowboy shooting for almost 20 years and a lot of the BP shooters use plastic wads. They either straight Ballistol or a Ballistol water mix. They give both barrels a couple of squirts and after about 10 minutes run a wad of paper towel which usually pushes the plastic out of the barrel all at once.

I use fiber wads & BP, but I do find the sooner you clean the barrels, the easier it is to get the barrels clean.


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I suspect that running 50 shots straight and then letting the gun sit for 4 or 5 hrs before even attempting to clean it, had a lot to do with my problems. I've cleaned strips of plastic out with water or Windex before and NEVER had trouble like this.

But whatever happened to those boxes I loaded last winter using fiber wads? I wonder where they went.


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