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....Just to inject some perspective. Personally, I like this perspective better than the one you had for jOe. Of course, Greg highlighted the obvious. Vacuums are created, and the most motivated 'freedom fighters', rapers and pillagers, tend to become or align with our worst enemies if they aren't overseen with American dollars and lives. Interesting that you used Chicago as an example in your revised perspective, and dropped the equivocation of the US with thug puppet regimes. Are you trying to say that when you take us down the political high road of psuedo decorum, that one side has got it all wrong?
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Craig, why don't you try reading what's ON the lines? You seem to be focusing on what you think is BETWEEN the lines . . . and you're way off target.
For example, where did I ever "equivocate" the US with thug puppet regimes? I referred to US/CIA support for the Contras. They were fighting the Commie Sandinistas, supported by Cuba and the old Soviet Union. US/CIA support for the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan . . . which was fighting the Taliban government, which in turn gave shelter to Al Qaeda. Looks to me like we were on the right side in both of those. You disagree?
No question that sometimes we get it wrong. Qadhafi was a thug, and we opposed him. Helped overthrow him. Only problem is: We should not be playing the regime change game when we're not pretty darned certain that the new regime is going to be better for US--as in Uncle Sam--than the regime we're trying to get rid of. Benghazi happened AFTER we got rid of Qadhafi, and Libya is now another "failed state" in that part of the world, and another potential breeding ground for terrorists.
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Craig, why don't you try reading what's ON the lines? You seem to be focusing on what you think is BETWEEN the lines . . . and you're way off target. Take it easy on craig, Larry thats the best he can do. If you present him with information that is inconsistent with his world view, he just makes up what you said and debates that. He is talented at masking his style with pros though, its just he makes the mistake of writing to the level of his audience, whom lack the capacity to see it for what it is.
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I also don't trust the Russian either, never have. Putin is just another Red Tsar trying to reform the old USSR.
I thank God we have a man like Trump in office, a man of his word and he tells it like it is. Refreshing!
Greg, If it was the conclusion of our intelligence agencies that the Russians, at Putins directive, interfered with our election to benefit Trump, and yet you do not trust the Russians and never have, have you ever wondered why the Russians wanted Trump? And does your lack of trust for the Russians, whom actively worked to elect our president, and undermine other western democracies, ever given you a moment to consider the basis for Trumps contempt for NATO, which, ironically works towards Russian national interests? Seems somewhat counterintuitive. https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
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Craig, why don't you try reading what's ON the lines? You seem to be focusing on what you think is BETWEEN the lines . . . and you're way off target. Take it easy on craig, Larry thats the best he can do.... Hey Larry, you and your new friend go play nice with the other kids. Im on ncas chit list.
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NCA--Could be, like some people who voted for Trump, that the Russians thought anyone had to be better than Hillary!  Seriously, Putin and Hillary REALLY don't like each other.
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....If it was the conclusion of our intelligence agencies that the Russians, at Putins directive, interfered with our election to benefit Trump, and yet you do not trust the Russians and never have, have you ever wondered why the Russians wanted Trump? And does your lack of trust for the Russians, whom actively worked to elect our president, and undermine other western democracies, ever given you a moment to consider the basis for Trumps contempt for NATO, which, ironically works towards Russian national interests?
Seems somewhat counterintuitive.... How come progressive philosophers are so wordy when there isnt much to say? You should be more thrifty, I can help.
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Craig, why don't you try reading what's ON the lines? You seem to be focusing on what you think is BETWEEN the lines . . . and you're way off target. Take it easy on craig, Larry thats the best he can do.... Hey Larry, you and your new friend go play nice with the other kids. Im on ncas chit list. No debating a strawman there thrifty!
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Thank you Dean for the links and "Hopefully" put this thread back on track............!
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