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Tom thts one great looking gun. Nice find.

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Always love their "duck bill" forend and "Yuge" trigger guards.

Tom, it would be such a blessing if you allowed a shop to make a pattern from a graded SAC gunstock. Even if it was just for the next guy. Their lines are quite unique.


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CZ, I know of no reason why we couldn't arrange to make a pattern stock at some point; and I'll work with you to do so as soon as time permits. The neatest SAC stocks in my opinion are found on the later Grades B, C, and D; and one will often find unique differences. Some of the nicest stocks I've seen have been on the second model B Grades (and probably because one seldom sees a late C or D Grade). These guns usually feature very nicely figured and colored stock wood, and those with carved layering around the checkered cheek panels are the most appealing. The most unusual B Grade stock I've seen to date is on a battered and abused BE in the 32XXX range. In addition to the standard beautiful wood, checkered and carved cheek panels, "S" shaped full pistol grip, and uniquely shaped SAC comb; this gun was ordered without the ebony forend tip, and the "S" shaped full pistol grip was ordered capped so that it's surface is now flat. Never seen another SAC gun with either of these features; and it must have taken some time to shape and fit the back side of the pistol grip cap to the "S" contour of that stock. This gun was also ordered with the pointing dog on the left side of the frame looking backwards towards the shooter; but I've seen that backwards dog theme on two other Grade B guns. I probably bore the hello out of many folks when it comes to SAC guns; but I personally find them extremely interesting.

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Tom, you don't "bore the hello" outta me.
Keep it coming, man!!
If'n a "Show & Tell" at Sanford (a la Dr. Bill) - count me IN.

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Bro. Tom is trying, and I'm trying to enhance the images

Looks like it was G.W. Harrison



No hits in Sporting Life under C.W. or G.W. so he apparently was not a prominent shooter

Possibly him in 1893
West Virginia Central and Pittsburgh Railway
https://books.google.com/books?id=2wpPAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA161&lpg

In 1912 he was Secy. of the New York State Association of County Agricultural Societies
https://books.google.com/books?id=0WV4n21P09gC&pg=PA841&lpg

1915 represented the New York Dept. of Agriculture
https://books.google.com/books?id=KAf4SVzXrHMC&pg=PA362&lpg

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Fascinating possibility of the gun's history.
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Best we can do, which is not quite fair to this neat gun



For Brian



Forend tip. The barrels are 3 Iron "Oxford" similar to Parker D3 on GH



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Brain
Frank Hollenbeck designed the "V" spring forend fastener seen on this gun. That feature/device was in production beginning with Frank's prototype, but had been entirely discontinued prior to serial number 8,000; and replaced by a "J" spring type fastener (Hollenbeck was long gone from the gun works when that change was made). It's a great feature as far as providing a very easy way to get a forend on and off a set of barrel, but it didn't serve to keep the forend tight against the knuckle of the frame; and, at least from my personal experience, it wasn't a stout enough spring and allowed the forend to occasionally spring loose on recoil. The SAC gun was improved when the "V" spring fastener was dropped.

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