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Mark II #509847 03/28/18 08:07 PM
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There is a diagram of the needed tooling in Dunlop's Gunsmithing book. I'll get one of the guys to turn them up. I'll let my buddy that owns the gun not to use the kick starter.

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I have a Remington sportsman 20 gauge which holds two in the magazine and one in the barrel. Is my gun like the model 11? Looks like a Browning without the magazine cutoff.

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Yes. Any Remington Autoloader made under the browning patents is technically a model 11.


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Originally Posted By: jlb
I have a Remington sportsman 20 gauge which holds two in the magazine and one in the barrel. Is my gun like the model 11? Looks like a Browning without the magazine cutoff.

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The 12-gauge John M. Browning designed autoloading shotgun was introduced by Remington Arms Co. in 1905 as the "Remington Autoloading Shotgun." In 1911, Marcellus Hartley Dodge combined his arms and ammunition companies as Remington Arms - Union Metallic Cartridge Co. and in their 1911-12 catalog they began calling the gun the Model No. 11. In 1930, a 20-gauge was added to the Model 11 line and a three-shot version of this 20-gauge called the "Sportsman" was introduced. The 20-gauge Model 11 had serial numbers beginning at 1000000. The 20-gauge "Sportsman" had serial numbers beginning with S1. In 1931, a 16-gauge Model 11 was introduced with serial numbers beginning with 1500000. Also the "Sportsman" was introduced in 12- and 16-gauges, with 12-gauge serial numbers beginning with S500000 and the 16-gauge with serial numbers beginning at S200000. In the early years the "Sportsman" A "Standard" Grade had three-bird roll-stamping on both sides of the receiver, while the Model 11A "Standard" Grade receiver remained plain. About 1936, Remington Arms Co., Inc. (now majority owned by DuPont) reduced the roll-stamping to one bird on each side of the "Sportsman" receiver and began putting it on the Model 11 receivers as well. During 1937 and 8 they phased out the separate serial number sequences for the "Sportsman" and from then on they were serial numbered right along with the Model 11.


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Thanks Researcher for the information.

My gun with a 28 inch matted barrel was purchased in 1938 by my father and I shot my first pheasant with the gun many years ago. Great memories.

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Remington model 11's were the guns of my youth. I never had one because I was the odd man out among my friends in shooting a pumpgun. A 20 ga model 31 Remington to be exact.

But my friends all had either a Browning if their daddy could afford it or a Remington 11. Most were the model 11's.

I recall a trip my best friend and I took on a Trailways Bus from south Georgia to middle Georgia to visit my grandparents and spend a week turned loose on the farm with our shotguns. We were about 13 and I had my pump and my buddy had a model 11.

We carried them on the bus and held them in our hands the entire trip. No one even looked sideways at us. Can you imagine that today?...Geo

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Geo;
Sometime between 1960 & 1964 I drove into the Jack Daniels Distillery are unstopped. I parked my car, removed an uncased Parker 12 gauge, broke it open & hung it over my arm & walked into a building with it. I found the gentleman I was seeking & gave it to him. He was a gunsmith & when he finished with it he gave me call & I went back to the Distillery & picked it up in a similar manner, times have "Changed".


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About 25 years or more BC (before cellphones) I high centered by vehicle turkey hunting 4 miles from the nearest highway. I walked out and hitch-hiked back to my buddy's car lot so he could pull me out with his wrecker. I was carrying my 835 and was in full turkey battle gear. A young man picked me up and drove me to town and let me out about 3 blocks from Jerry's lot. Out of curiosity I asked the fellow who gave me the ride why he stopped to pick me up with me carrying a shotgun. "By the time I saw the gun, it was too late." Jerry and his brother saw me about a half a block away coming to their lot and were rolling on the ground laughing. Today, I would have attracted a bevy of squad cars. Gil

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I remember one of my friends had a 16ga model 11 of the variety which had no ejection handle. Instead it had a knurled section of barrel out at the end.

My buddy wasn't big enough to reach out and cycle the gun by pulling the barrel. He always put the butt on the ground and wrapped both hands around the knurled section of barrel and pushed it down...just past his ear.

Even as a kid I knew that was going to end badly. Never did though as far as I know and he must have grown into the gun...Geo

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Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
I remember one of my friends had a 16ga model 11 of the variety which had no ejection handle. Instead it had a knurled section of barrel out at the end.

My buddy wasn't big enough to reach out and cycle the gun by pulling the barrel. He always put the butt on the ground and wrapped both hands around the knurled section of barrel and pushed it down...just past his ear.

Even as a kid I knew that was going to end badly. Never did though as far as I know and he must have grown into the gun...Geo


That was the Winchester Model 1911. Designed by TC Johnson. Affectionately called the “widowmaker”.

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