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I get cheek slap from every gun that I pre-mount for trap shooting. That includes semi's, pumps, a number of sxs, a number of o/u, a Remington 1894 F-Trap and my wife's Winchester 101 with a Gracoil.
My trap gun is especially bad, a Beretta 680 trap combo with a double barrel and an un-single that I purchased new in 1982. I have tried a high roll over Monte Carlo style stock, then whittled it to extreme cast off, put a leather pad on it, tried vaseline. I have an adjustable butt pad and have played around with the pitch. My mount is normal, I'm not doing anything different than most other trap shooters. After one round my cheek is starting to swell and after two rounds I'm generally finished.
But if I shoot low gun I never get cheek slap. Never get it shooting low gun skeet or while hunting unless I pre-mount to shoot a cripple.
Never get it from any of my rifles that includes most of the common calibers up to Win 338. All my rifles have custom stocks with extreme high roll over Monte Carlo butts.
I am the average guy, 5'10", 175lbs, fit and no unusual features.
I've had lots of guys who think they know something about gun fit provide many comments but none have worked.
I'm sure there is a fix but I don't know what it is.
Last edited by Tamid; 02/20/18 11:21 AM.
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It could be a plethora of things including not enough pitch, comb to heel measurement not right, a stock thats not the right LOP, poor mounting technique, cheeking the comb to hard, et al. Bottom line, gun likely does not fit you. You might want to get a gun fitting by a pro and then you will know.
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Do your stocks have level combs front to back? You might try having the point of your cheek weld be lower, so the recoil , coming straight back moves the cheek piece down. Try to set the adjustment so the cheekpiece is higher at the butt than the thumb hole.
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What causes it for me is seeing too much rib, knowing that it will shoot high if I don't cheek it hard. I refuse to shoot guns like that.
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What causes it for me is seeing too much rib, knowing that it will shoot high if I don't cheek it hard. I refuse to shoot guns like that.
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Have someone take a picture of your head on the stock. Shoot the gun both ways before you look at the pictures. You should see a difference in where your cheek is placed.
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25 shots and the mans face is swelling......its more than a high stocked gun fellows. I hate to argue, but.......Im putting my money elsewhere. It could even be that right before Tamid goes shooting his wife says no and he wont take no for an answer. Lots of causes for cheek slap. Bottom line, the guns dont fit you. It could be your mount technique since its not one gun in particular. You need hands on diagnostics and gun fitting by a pro. Without observing your gun mount, shooting and assessing gun fit in person, its anyones guess where the problem lies.
Last edited by buzz; 02/20/18 10:53 PM.
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Tamid,
If you can shoot low gun and hit things and get no cheek slap, then it has to do with your mount when shooting gun up. My guess is that you are rolling your head after the mount. Head rolling does not necessarily change your eye to rib relationship but makes a huge difference in recoil management.
If happens with all guns of different fit, then it is probably not gunfit. I can shoot all sorts of different fitting guns and never get cheek slap but my brother does with any gun.
We will have to go out to the range and I can sort it out after watching you shoot, both gun-up and gun-down.
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The last time I experienced Cheek Slap coming home really late was the root cause...
Apologies to all
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