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Bryan, talk to Russ Gould at Doublegunhq.com. He is in May, Texas and might be able to help. He has trips to Argentina and many other places.


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There are many little things that vary from outfitter to outfitter, that aren't little when you are there, that are so important to the overall success and enjoyment of a trip to Cordoba. Things like how far you are staying from the actual shooting locations. You do not have to ride over 5-10 minutes each way ever, if you go with the right one. Some even put you up in a hotel and then transport you up to two hours each way to and from shooting. Because of this, they keep you in the field through lunch and cook for you there. Luis brings you back to the lodge for lunch, where you are met with hors d'oeuvres and a staff waiting to help you in any way they can. You have lunch, and can catch a quick nap in your room, if you'd like, before going back to the field for another three hour shoot in the afternoon. When you return in the late afternoon, same routine ...........hor d'oeuvres, drinks if you'd like, t.v., etc. He has a computer for you to use in the lodge. If you want it, there is a masseuse there in the late afternoons to ease the muscle aches from a long days' shooting. One of the evenings, immediately following the meal, there is entertainment in the form of a young Argentine couple who dance the tango, to traditional music.

But, maybe the biggest "little" thing of all, IMO, is the lady ( in the case of Luis Sier's operation) who is standing there at the Cordoba airport when you get off the plane, to walk you through every minute detail and step of getting through customs and the Policia, who go over your guns with a fine tooth comb. Do what Gloria says, and it's a breeze, each way. They know her, and know she has her ducks in a row. I'd hate to try it without an on-site person to help out there. It could be done, but the Policia know she keeps things straight, to their great pleasure, and there's never a hitch.

It may or may not make any difference in operation, but Luis owns all the land we have ever shot on. He doesn't farm it himself, but leases it to farmers in the area. He owns the 1600 acre roost, which is directly across the road from the La Paloma Lodge, and only about a mile from the bigger Riverside Lodge. Both compounds are fenced with a high security fence that is electrified at night, and have armed guards all night at the only gate. We asked him if this was necessary. He replied, "Never have had problem ............never will have problem. Clients too important to me".

Group rates can be negotiated, and we always do that. One person who is accustomed to international travel (if possible) should act as contact man for the entire group. Use a travel agent for the ticketing, etc. It is so nice to have a big group of your friends and acquaintances with you.The fellowship and camaraderie just adds another dimension to the hunt.

I much prefer early August there. Weather is crisp and brisk at night, and warms up to shirt-sleeve temps during the day. That would not be a deal breaker for me though, as I am sure there are other times of the year that would be great. But, in August, the crops there are all harvested and the fields are open, with crop residue. Beautiful farmland, beautiful warm gracious people. Everything one could ask for in the way of amenities.

I have heard of the death of one of the hunters at another outfitter's operation, due to an accident of some type involving a vehicle. So, there is another consideration, of which I will avail myself every time I go. There is a service called AirEvac, that will provide you with jet transportation from the site of an accident, or illness, to your choice of hospital in the USA............bed to bed. It is a short-term insurance that you purchase for the length of your trip only. It costs somewhere around $260, according to their representative which whom I spoke this week, for about 7-10 days. She told me of a hunter who was out of country recently, broke his leg badly, and the local medical facility gave him a choice of amputation or screwing a steel rod to the outside of his leg with screws going into the leg bones. He arranged an emergency flight home via a medical transport company, and it cost $25,000. I wouldn't fly overseas without that insurance.

At this point, I wouldn't consider going to Cordoba to hunt with any other outfitter. And, we have the entire Riverside Lodge booked for the first week of August, this year.

http://www.airevacinternational.com

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Stan's suggestion of medical evacuation insurance is well worth adherence. I know of local examples of one having it and another not having it. A friend's son was in the New Guinea jungles on an eco tour. He is a hemophiliac. What he was doing in a jungle, heaven only knows. He was injured and developed a bleed. No trip insurance. It cost the family $50,000 to evacuate him home. They had to take a second mortgage on the home. Then there was dad's buddy Leo. He bitched and moaned about his wife paying $75 for trip insurance. He had cardiac problems on the trip, an Alaskan cruise. Was helicoptered to a town and then airlifted to a surgical center. Spent two weeks in a Canadian hospital and was flown home all of the above at the insurer's expense. Gil

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Some outfitters offer within the package Global Rescue(typically a 7 day policy) & I recently was in a group that a fella had a heart attack, so this service is warranted. This fella had the means to be extracted by still it takes several hours from Florida in any craft. And it is a good idea to know if the outfitter is a pilot or has a pilot on staff that can be on an airstrip w/in say 1/2 hour.

https://www.globalrescue.com/

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And on a sidenote, Bolivian Adventures does have an airstrip; one of the CEOs is a pilot & they have a pilot w/ a plane on call. And the wife of one of the CEOs is a Doctor. One negative on the whole lot is the 10 year visa one has to purchase due to some quid pro quo between the U.S. of A. & Bolivia, but the Canadians go & come as they please. It takes several painful hours to get the fella to copy your passport.

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Great advice from everyone. I'm enjoying the dialogue.

I hadn't thought that much about pigeon, perdiz or ducks. I'm still toying around with that. I know I would love any of it or just focusing on doves for the first trip.

Medical evacuation insurance is always a good idea on trips like this. I got it when I went to Zimbabwe. Can you imagine the expense? Or worse yet, getting a blood transfusion in Zimbabwe? No thanks.

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I know it must vary tremendously but do you find the shooting to be around large flocks that flare or is it more like lots of smaller groups/singles coming by? I think I would enjoy the smaller groups and lots of singles more than a large swarm that is very hard to focus on individual targets.

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No large flocks. Singles and small groups but so continuous that it's hard to call any of them singles. Hard to describe so many in sight and in range all the time.

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They will put you onto a spot to give you a lot of birds to shoot. If you have a favorite shot tell them. Like high incomes or left to right birds. After all shells are where the real money adds up. They don't care how many birds you kill they care about how many shells you use.

I spent one day shooting right to left birds at different ranges until I got so dialed in that few birds going that direction were safe out to fifty plus yards. Changed my choke tube after an hour to extend my range. Next day I changed to shooting only birds going the opposite direction. Lots of practice makes you very, very deadly with a shotgun. I got years of chances at birds in the period of three hours. Enjoy it and figure out how to use it to make you a more confident and competent shooter.

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When you shoot doves here on a dove field you will be shooting every different presentation imaginable. When you shoot where I did in Cordoba, you see birds flying away from you and you see birds flying toward you, all morning or afternoon. But they are like that as far as the eye can see on either side. They're leaving the roost or coming back to it. Two directions ..........that's it. Sometimes it's just pass shooting, all incomers.

At many locations you can shoot incomers for awhile, going away for awhile, turn to your left and shoot right to left crossers, then turn to the other side and shoot left to right crossers. Any presentation can be shot from one spot ..........take your pick. My favorite is to shoot an incomer far, far out there, then shoot another incomer so quickly that it falls in front of you. Two dead birds in the air at one time is "mucha diversion".

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