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I had read about that method of using a BB gun & tried it a bit on my own, no official training. Was using the Daisy Pump (no rib Stan), model 29 if memory is correct. I didn't do it enough to get as good as some of you, but it will amaze you just what can be done by this method of "Look at Target" & shoot. Obviously the Daisy didn't fit me like my regular shotguns but still shot well to point of "Look".


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Originally Posted By: 2-piper
Obviously the Daisy didn't fit me like my regular shotguns but still shot well to point of "Look".


Fit doesn't seem to matter and the hand eye coordination the BB gun method teaches is absolutely transferable over to your shotgun. The BB guns we used all had the sights removed altogether...Geo

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As always a fascinating and illuminating discussion. When I read most of the comments I give a hearty thanks that some people were not in my instructive past. And it's always great fun to relay the wisdom to folks out at the club so they have a better idea of how to improve their game.


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I recall shooting a BSS for skeet at night for years. Once in a while, the front bead (a light gathering plastic tube type) would be noted as missing part way through a night of shooting. It never seemed to matter on my scores.

But I believe that is because of transference to other references thru repetition. You shoot 10,000 times while focusing on the target, but your mind sees the barrels, your hand and forend, rib, etc., over and over again. Not just the rib or bead.

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Joseph Manton who invented the raised rib felt it served a very definite purpose. Churchill felt one never looked at it.

I am of the opinion that any good shot given a gun with stock dimensions that fit, could shoot the gun well with any rib. The style of rib seems to be more for aesthetics than anything else.

However the rib should always taper to end flush with the barrels. When a rib on a side-by-side is above the muzzle of the gun or the height of the bead is changed the pitch is thrown off. The eyes see the top of that bead subconsciously.

I didn't believe it myself but I proved it by lowering a bead on a gun that I couldn't hit with, and it worked immediately.

Like most of you I don't think anyone consciously looks at the rib.
However ,the best shot I ever knew used to put white tape down the rib of his barrel when he got into a shoot-off that went into darkness. He seldom lost.

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Originally Posted By: Stan
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Some of you old farts that went through basic in the late 60's may have been instructed in basic marksmanship with Daisy BB guns using Lucky McDaniel's Quick Kill technique of focusing on the target and looking over the barrel to hit the thrown target which was made progressively smaller until one could hit a bb with a bb. I had the serendipitous experience of meeting Lucky McDaniel's daughter at a party 40 years after basic who was shocked that I was able to talk about her dad knowing who he was and what he did and having been trained in the technique. Gil


Art thou implying that thy bb gun hadst no raised rib? By chance was it French?


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Stan, can't recall where it was made, but the model was "La Ryder Rouge". It was not a sliding breech or break action. If memory serves it was lever action. I recall the range master announcing "Ready on the right, Ready on the left; ready on the firing line. Do not shoot your eye out." Gil

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You're not "ribbing" us, are you, Gil?

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Originally Posted By: billwolfe
You're not "ribbing" us, are you, Gil?


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Originally Posted By: treblig1958
Ribs smibs,

The question that has never been adequately answered to this day is, What is the premium cut, Prime Rib or Filet Mignon?


Prime rib, of course! Never a contest... not enough fat on the filet.


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Originally Posted By: Stan
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I believe that we see more of our rib & barrels than some would like to admit. It is all a part of the sight picture.
Looking at the target you catch in your peripheral vision a picture of where your rib & bead is in relation to the target.
This lets you know when to trigger the shot.


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You may not see it but your body (or your mind, take your pick) does. You may concentrate so hard that you only see the target but you are somehow aware where it is.


and another +1

So many confuse the term "seeing the rib/bead" with "looking at the rib/bead". You absolutely see it, if you have the gun mounted and it fits you properly. But, you NEVER look at it again, after picking up the bird and locking your eyes on it .................be it a live or an inanimate bird. To look at the bead/muzzles during the shot process guarantees you will shoot behind it.

This from an old dedicated iron sight rifle and pistol competitor of many years, which demands a hard focus on the front sight, with the target and rear sight a blur ............... "it don't come easy, you know it don't come easy". My apologies to Mr. Lennon.
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