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#501212 01/11/18 02:45 PM
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Have been recently working up a bismuth load for goose hunting with my mag 10 British guns.1 1/2 oz. of bismuth 2's.Took some samples of my latest effort for testing yesterday,using the W.P.Jones 3 1/2" 34" steel,full & full hammergun.After touching off the first round at the plate at a measured 40 yds.and walking up to see the result,I was a little stunned.Only two pellets outside of a 30"circle and most pellets within 24". A second round produced a similar pattern with five pellets outside the circle.No more excuses when pass shooting.I am now the weakest link...



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Awesome pattern, Terry. A true long range duck or goose load!

How 'bout some pics of that Jones hammergun?

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Terry:

What kind of pressures are you getting with that load?

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Hi Stan,I think I posted this gun on an earlier topic.It appears from the proof marks that it started life as a chamberless 12 and then morphed into a 3 1/2" 10 about 50 years later.Seriously heavy set of barrels.Belonged to friend in England for a number of years that parted with it during a weak moment.





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Hello Rem, To the best of my knowledge the load should be around 9500 psi.It is a buffered load that I built using info from various sources including Tom Roster and other manuals.I know that tampering with published recipes etc. is frowned upon, but I used to do a lot of reloading with lead for waterfowling and still have my vision and fingers intact.All my mag 10's are nitro proofed for 4 Tons/psi or 1200 Kgs.


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Thanks, Terry. Interesting gun ........... back action locks combined with fluid steel barrels.

What does it weigh?

It appears you've got the same issue with the gun shooting high as I do with the 20 ga. pump I recently bought from Lloyd3. My patterns are 100/0 with it. I'll work it out tho'.

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Just threw it on my scale and it weighs 9lbs 14 oz.with empty chambers.Actually I pulled that first shot high.Did three others and they seemed to average about 60/40 so not an issue.The gun balances about 2 1/2" ahead of the hinge pin so no problem with follow through once you get it swinging.


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60/40 is fine, for me, too.

9 lbs. 14 oz. isn't too bad for a big gun with 34" barrels.

Big medicine.

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This is a question out of complete ignorance and I'm asking merely for informative purposes, but is #2 bismuth sufficient for pass shooting honkers at range?


As an aside, that is a beautiful gun and I bet those 34" tubes are fantastic for swinging on waterfowl.

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I do a lot of shooting on Snow geese where the #2 bismuth seems to get the job done to about 60yds.On big honkers I would think 50 would be max.for body penetration.About the distance I also start to fail...


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