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If you want to know, the real question Americans have about Britain is why do you put up with and support royalty at all?? Of course we have our NFL, NBA, and all the movie stars, so we certainly have no room to throw stones. But, the question still stands; WHY?...Geo

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Actually the Russians did finance the leave campaign. Nothing would please Putin more than to see the EU fall apart. Trump wouldnt care much either. In fact what will happen is there will be an EU integrated defense. Russian moves in Crimia, Ukraine and the Baltics will insure that. Trump backing away from NATO will help it along. NATO was conceived to keep the Americans in, the Germans down and the Russians out. Well a new European Union army will only need to keep the Russians out. Something new is emerging in Europe. It will happen faster with the Brits not fucking things up.

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Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
If you want to know, he real question Americans have about Britain is why do you put up with and support royalty at all?? Of course we have our NFL, NBA, and all the movie stars, so we certainly have no room to throw stones. But, the question still stands; WHY?...Geo


I believe that one of the main reasons for supporting Royalty is that it gives us a tangible chronology of our history,,a living proof of the age of our country in a time of increasingly temporary states of affairs. It gives us a fixed point of traditional reference when the world is often in a state of some turmoil. There is little sense of deference,,merely respect for a difficult job well done.


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Originally Posted By: nialmac
It will happen faster with the Brits not fucking things up.

As the US knows only too well, maintaining defence forces is very expensive.
The EU has little money because when the UK leaves, apart from Germany, the Netherlands, Sweden and France who will be the major financial contributors, most of the others are all drawing out funds. France isn't even a full member of NATO. Most speak different languages and have incompatible equipment.
It is more likely not to not happen at all - other than a sort of UN peacekeeping force clone.

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Originally Posted By: nialmac
Actually the Russians did finance the leave campaign. Nothing would please Putin more than to see the EU fall apart. Trump wouldn’t care much either. In fact what will happen is there will be an EU integrated defense. Russian moves in Crimia, Ukraine and the Baltic’s will insure that. Trump backing away from NATO will help it along. NATO was conceived to keep the Americans in, the Germans down and the Russians out. Well a new European Union army will only need to keep the Russians out. Something new is emerging in Europe. It will happen faster with the Brits not fucking things up.


That's the theory anyways.


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Originally Posted By: Thruxton
Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
If you want to know, he real question Americans have about Britain is why do you put up with and support royalty at all?? WHY?...Geo


I believe that one of the main reasons for supporting Royalty is that it gives us a tangible chronology of our history,,a living proof of the age of our country in a time of increasingly temporary states of affairs. It gives us a fixed point of traditional reference when the world is often in a state of some turmoil. There is little sense of deference,,merely respect for a difficult job well done.


Good an answer as any I guess. That and they certainly do a difficult job quite well...Geo

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Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
If you want to know, the real question Americans have about Britain is why do you put up with and support royalty at all?? Of course we have our NFL, NBA, and all the movie stars, so we certainly have no room to throw stones. But, the question still stands; WHY?...Geo


Ahem! No NHL? WTF?


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JohnfromUK, you are obviously an educated man and while I agree there are many things wrong with the European project the rumors of its demise are premature. People have been saying the same stuff since the start but it just keeps getting bigger. Theres good reasons why the richer countries are ready, grudgingly, to bail out the goofs. They remember what went before. Britain hasnt had foreign troops invade since the Norman conquest. Ive lived in England and traveled there a good bit. I know exactly why the leavers voted as they did. Just a short walk around Londonistan or any of the other Stans in the Midlands will show why. I think the Brits were happier with the Normans.

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If jeremy corbyn gets into power in the uk, then game shooting will be the least of the worries. He is a full on marxist who has never had a job outside parliament, consorts with very dubious people like the ira and hezbollah (they are not terrorists, but freedom fighters), and class warfare, banning "bloodsports", including game shooting.

I am right in thinking he had a strict vegan as his shadow minister of agriculture, and he himself was a member of lacs (league against cruel sports).

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I'm no monarchist, Geo, not by a long shot, but I admire the royal family for always putting its members in the front lines when the shooting starts. I also admire the way Elizabeth does her job with quiet assurance.

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