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SXS 40 #495923 11/26/17 08:44 PM
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I tried your photo posting method, it didn't work. I must be doing something wrong.
I uploaded several photos at once, but when I posted them in the forum, only the last one I uploaded showed up, and it was too large. ??


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I had a problem loading two at once too. Try them one at a time. If the format is too large...you can resize them using that resize button. Experiment. It should work. As I said. I only load one at a time. copy the formula. post it. reload post image and load another. There's probably a way to do it all at once...haven't figured that out yet. If you don't want to keep your DBS post open (while you're working on post image....you could copy each formula onto a note then post the note....all at once.

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I used Gil's fix for unblocking photoshop, then went back and checked my original EM Reilly line. And in the "air gun" section there is an entry for a JC Reilly Air gun, SN 7801 with an Oxford street address.

This is the third JC Reilly SN in the 7000's after their move to 502 New Oxford Street in 1847 and I'm getting pretty near to saying definitively that at the time of their move, EM set up his own numbering system starting with 8,400 while the aging JC kept numbers beginning perhaps at 7,000?

I'll repost the air-cane below:

3). 7801 ??
Name: REILLY, NEW OXFORD STREET, LONDON
Description: REILLY LONDON A RARE CASED 28-BORE PERCUSSION COMBINATION WALKING-STICK GUN serial no. 7801. circa 1845 comprising of a 28 3/4in. re-browned octagonal damascus rifle barrel signed `REILLY NEW OXFORD STREET LONDON` (renewed) small dove-tailed crescent fore-sight blued standing notch rear-sight with one folding leaf a 29 3/4in. re-browned damascus round shot barrel with octagonal breech section (unsigned) and an unsigned octagonal 32-bore 3in. re-browned damascus pistol barrel (probably a later addition) matching period London proofs together with a percussion under-hammer squared boxlock action with guarded trigger the top-tang signed `REILLY NEW OXFORD ST. LONDON`

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--this is an early Reilly after they moved to 502 New Oxford Street in late March 1847. It has he picture of 502 indicating it is post 1848-9. For the first 12 months or so after the move the wrote "removed from Holborn" on the labels.
--The SN is interesting because if his air-gun canes were numbered in the same series as his long guns, this is the earliest number after the move. I’ve speculated that EM and JC just jumped numbers up from about 4.500 to 8,400 after the move. However, this cane if the SN is in the long-gun series will change that.
-- (the auction house is wrong; the cane can’t be 1845 and have the New Oxford Street address - see the chronology)
-- Note: I’ve found a JC REILLY shotgun with the 502 New Oxford Street address with a serial number 7280. This is outside of the EM Reilly numbering system - the earliest I found was 8463, which had the label "502 New Oxford" plus "removed from Holborn." (posted below) This makes me wonder whether Joseph Charles and E.M split their serial numbering at this time. i.e. J.C. may have continued with his own numbering system and let EM begin anew with SN’s after 8,400). This will be investigated further. (or it could be that the "7" is actually a "9")
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/aucti...f6-a4340134dc99



And move this to the main line...this is exciting historical stuff (for me).


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Argo44: following are the photographs of the Reilly's. The photos are in the order of my previous listing. What impressed me about these is the quality of the engraving and wood. The JC Reilly is still in transit. Sorry for the photo quality, old I phone camera.




















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OMG, Outside of Terry Buffum, and maybe not even him, I've looked at more Reilly pictures than anyone living...and those are magnificent. Reilly's speciality was French Maple when a lot of British gun manufacturers' stocks were ...dull.

Reilly went into eclipse shortly after the turn of the 19-20th century and people just didn't remember what he did. Those pics alone should raise Reilly in Rocketman's "prestige" category. The 19th century knew this. You did well to buy from Terry.

(and congrats on mastering not only photo posting but photography because those photos with the lighting, focus, background, are plain excellent1)

Gene Williams

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timg.org/image/3tt28mc4r/][/url]0 BPE rifle.


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The last two photos are of the 500 BPE rifle.


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Hello Argo.Your research on the Reilly's is pretty amazing.The examples I have seen over the years have all been from very good to superb. Obviously they catered to a high end crowd both in Britain and internationally.I will re post my earlier info on my E.M.Reilly hammer pigeon gun and add some pics I had on file.
Sorry for the quality as they were taken quite a while back.I have owned this gun for over 40 years and it is a dream to shoot.
Let me know if any further info would be of use. Terry Lubzinski

My apologizes for not following up on a posting I made in 2010 and adding some information that may add to your chronological listings.Said posting can be found at this address
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=191402&page=all
xxxxx - (1880’s?)
Name: Not mentioned.
Description: E.M.Reilly bar-in wood 12 bore with Whitworth steel barrels circa 1885 with 2 3/4" chambers,30" mod. and full and nitro proofed. It has a large capital "B" in 24 carat gold where the oval would normally be.
Comment: This is Terry Lubzinski’s gun…He could add more info including SN, and address on rib, etc.
The gun is serial # 303xx and has only the 277 Oxford St. address not the Rue Scribe.What may be helpful is that the original black powder proofs include Not For Ball which should place the gun at 1887 or earlier.The gun is a personal favorite and still performs regular service at sporting clays





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Argo 44, I own an E.M. Reilly 4 bore hammergun that was converted long ago from it's original pinfire. It came to me from an auction in upstate New York in its original trunk case w/ accessories and eight 4 gauge Winchester shells. Is this a fairly rare gun ? The SN is 15625.

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George 15625 was likely made in in Sep-Oct 1868. It's the only Reilly 4 bore in the chronological list of Serial Numbers.

George: your gun was one of the first I ran across when I started looking at Reilly. I posted this in the Chronological list of SN's in the long EM Reilly History Chronology, Serial Number line:

15625 - (1868)
Name: E.M. REILLY 502 NEW OXFORD STREET LONDON Branch Establishment 2 Rue Scribe Paris
Descriptions: 4 bore SxS cased hammer gun SN 15625 converted by the company in the eighteen hundreds from the original pinfire to centerfire.
Comment: George’s gun and George himself was subject to some painful back and forth-ing on DBS when he first posted the gun, typical of the internet. I firmly dated as being numbered sometime in Sep-Oct 1868.
http://www.mylandco.com/index.php?pageid=4

And I posted the analysis on the long EM Reilly line. I dated it as having been numbered in Fall 1868, possibly September or October.
-- Reilly opened Rue Scribe Feb 1868
-- First SN I've found with Rue Scribe on the Rib is 15270
-- He was numbering about 50 guns a month at the time.
-- Your gun SN is 355 numbers higher than 15270
-- 50 a month after Feb 1868 = 7 months
-- Voila Sep-Oct 1868

1st Rue Scribe gun................................................................................................ 1st Reilly Martini
Febv1868..............Janv1869..............Janv1870...............Janv1871...............Janv1872.......1872
..15270..........v.....15750.................16250...................16750...................17250..........17644 - (at 500/year).
...................15625
...............Sep.Oct 1868

By the way, it's the only 4 bore in the chronological database. But Reilly numbered over 35,000 guns before the firm dwindled away in he early 1900's. I've only collected SN's and info on about 200.

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