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Describes my sentiments perfectly. Thank you.
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Describes my sentiments perfectly. Thank you. Really? I thought your repeated denials over many years that the 2nd Amendment protected an Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms more accurately describes your sentiments King. These are your words... not mine: Ed, historically the individual "right" to bear arms is relatively new. I believe John Ashcroft in 2002 became the first federal attorney-general to proclaim that individuals should be able to own guns. The Supreme Court in 2008 overturned all mainstream legal and historical scholarship by ruling that there is an individual right to own firearms although with some limits. Obama said it again last week.
I believe that during the previous 218 years the Second meant what it said: firearms shall be held by "the People"---a collective and not individual right---insofar they are in the service of "a well-regulated militia." Was an individual right even mentioned at the Constitutional Convention or in the House when it ratified the Amendment or when debated in state legislatures? I don't think so. By the way, the Liberal Democrat Obama strongly disagreed with both the Heller and McDonald Supreme Court decisions which reaffirmed the IRKBA provision of the 2nd Amendment in 2008. I thought you'd appreciate the reminder. You're most welcome!
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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The problem with most people's knees is that they are obese to begin with. Knees weren't designed to bear that much weight.
SRH My experience is just the opposite, the people who stayed active and involved with sports ran into knee trouble. I tore an ACL three years past at work, have not elected to have it repaired just yet. The other knee was injured in high school, torn miniscus and fractured cap, running track, which, ended right there, but, it didn't bother me in Golden Gloves. I did my road work a little slower, after freshman year, however. I have trouble running, today, but, walk at least 2-4 everyday in the winter, and hold on in white knuckled fear when my Setter takes me for a bike ride, weather permitting. I ride my bicycles a lot. Still try to make The Lake Pepin three speed tour every spring. Only meds are two asprins or Aleve on the bad days at work, those are typically thursdays or fridays when I've had to cut or throw paper into a press or folder. I walk out of the building tired! But, I see it sneaking into my friends and family. I have more friends that have given it up, then friends that will take me up on an offer of a day hunting. That, is the hell of it. Best, Ted
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I'll admit I worded that "not too carefully", Ted. What I really should have said was .......... in the South, I believe obesity to be the number one cause of bad knees. Surely, athletic injuries account for some bad knees ............. old football players love to brag about their injuries, but in the big scheme of things I have seen that really active people are usually not badly overweight, and don't have nearly as many knee problems as overweight people.
SRH
May God bless America and those who defend her.
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It would seem far better to get light weight English gun with 65mm chambers. Fine one sold very recently at Hill Rod & Gun Co. It was G.E. Lewis BLE with 28" barrels choked 1/4-1/2 with weight listed at 5lb9oz.
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2 1/2" guns are certainly more versatile. And Lewis made some real lightweights. I owned one that was just a tick under 6#, and it was factory bored 2 3/4".
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Volume of shots fired & conditions under which they are fired of course play a major role in this. I recall on one occasion using 1 factory 1 1/4 oz 3" 20 gauge load of #4 shot to kill a young Blue Goose from a 6 1/4 lb double. (Italian Rich-land 707). Didn't feel a thing when she went off. A couple hundred rounds in an afternoon on a range would be a totally different thing.
A younger co-worker of mine, he was abou 40 at the time, bought a used Spanish 12 gauge double. 28" barreled, DTNE, choked I/C-Mod with factory 3" chambers. He put one of those
1 7/8 oz Roman Candle loads in each barrel, picked out something to shoot at, threw it to his shoulder with a finger on each trigger. He yanked both triggers simultaneously & there was one big loud Ka-Bloom. He was laughing as he lowered the gun & said she's just a mere Pussy-Cat & went on his merry way. Sure sounds like a big bunch of Sissies around here to me.
Miller/TN I bet he would not do that 10-20 times in fairly rapid succession! IMO, there is nothing manly about absorbing unnecessary recoil. Recoil is cumulative in that the more you shoot over time the more sensitive you will become. I have to admit though that some people are just more able to absorb it for longer periods without developing a flinch.
W. R. Eddleman
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WRE1;
I am in full agreement, in fact in a follow up post I stated I would not expose either me or a gun to such abuse. Just thought I'd stir the pot a bit.
The Mag 20 loads with 1 1/4 oz shot from that 6 1/4 lb gun had Stout, though not abusive, recoil. This load had a good bit lower velocity than a "High Brass (3 3/4 DE-1 1/4 oz) 12 gauge load.
As stated it was quite usable for its intended purpose in hunting situations where only a few shots would be fired. Its accumulative affects would become abusive if a large unmber of shots were fired in a short period of time.
Miller/TN
I Didn't Say Everything I Said, Yogi Berra
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