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#490119 09/14/17 10:24 PM
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Is chambered for 2 3/4. I would like to shoot 2 1/2 shells.
Browning says it won't damage the gun but might not have enough push to kick the shells all the way out (I just installed a new main spring also)
Art says 2 9/16 were bouncing shells off the walls when he shot it to check it out for me so I do have some alternatives.

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There's a lot of discussion around here about using shells of different length than the chamber.

Nobody's ever happy.

The shorter shells may well work, depending on recoil impulse. Try it.

If you have the old spring, that might be the perfect place to start fine tuning it for lighter loads. I've not done it, but maybe chop a turn off the old spring and see if that works.

I would caution you to not just remove the friction piece. That controls the speed of the forward stroke also, and removing it can be hard on the forend wood. I think that's one reason there are so many split ones.


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With semi autos the length of the shell can be just of much of a devil as the load, I am sure there are 2 1/2" shells with the correct recoil profile to work the action, might not feed/eject correctly though.....most semi autos have a too short too long window.....I roll crimped a worst case scenario load for Tom Armbrust to test for my Browning gold light ten, it came in around 10k which was safe for that gun but the whif of a roll crimp left untrimmed 3.5" rem loads to long to feed from mag tube....too short of a shell might try to load at a bad angle too.

You could also get some light 2 3/4" loads and not worry about anything:)




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What he said!

Friction ring has a heavy and light position flip as well.... not heard about pulling it altogether, but I could see where that might be an option( I think it also acts as an action bushing so not so sure how wise that would be?)




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Originally Posted By: Shotgunjones
There's a lot of discussion around here about using shells of different length than the chamber.

Nobody's ever happy.

The shorter shells may well work, depending on recoil impulse. Try it.

If you have the old spring, that might be the perfect place to start fine tuning it for lighter loads. I've not done it, but maybe chop a turn off the old spring and see if that works.

I would caution you to not just remove the friction piece. That controls the speed of the forward stroke also, and removing it can be hard on the forend wood. I think that's one reason there are so many split ones.


When it comes to 16ga there is good incentive to try 2.5" shell vs. 2&3/4" one and not just because they have bunch of 2.5" game loads around. The short-cased "Euro slug" Vo. 1350fps standard American load Vo. 1600fps. Using Euro slug will spare fillings, shoulder and cheek from a lot of pounding "wear and tear". Interestingly most European 2.5" field loads should work fine in working the action because many are loaded to similar potential as 2&3/4" while allowing to avoid pressure increase when longer shell is fired through shorter chamber. Most American 2.5" specialty game loads probably will not work the action because they were designed to be shot in old guns that may even have twist or damascus barrels. This is kind of analogous to old American made 7x57 and 8x57JS hunting ammo that were loaded to be safe in old surplus clinkers thus establishing faux notion that those calibers were somehow gentle and soft recoiling which in reality they are not.

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The issue with short shells (or, for that matter, 2 3/4" reloads with reduced velocity) is that they do need to make the gun work. You will almost certainly find that European shells--most of which we see in this country are heavier and/or faster field loads vs target loads--will probably work. Your own reloads? You need to play around. I could not get the new Sweet 16 to cycle with RST 3/4 or 7/8 ounce loads. Worked fine with the 1 oz loads.

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The real 'Sweet Sixteen' is a fairly heavy gun for a 16 gauge and is very pleasant to shoot with standard 1 ounce loads.

I rather miss the point of going lighter.

With the new 'Sweet Benelli' you're stuck with 1 oz. anyway.


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Originally Posted By: Shotgunjones
The real 'Sweet Sixteen' is a fairly heavy gun for a 16 gauge and is very pleasant to shoot with standard 1 ounce loads.

I rather miss the point of going lighter.

With the new 'Sweet Benelli' you're stuck with 1 oz. anyway.


....or you can test your fillings if you have any by selecting "Tall Pheasant" or more factually correct American "Prairie Pheasant" 1&1/8oz loads at >1250fps.

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What loads do you use in your 16 ga. double Jagermeister?

Oh wait... I almost forgot... you don't own a 16 ga. double. In fact, you don't own any doubles. How sad. Just like one of those poor wannabe guys who wears a Harley Davidson jacket, but doesn't have a motorcycle.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: keith
What loads do you use in your 16 ga. double Jagermeister?

Oh wait... I almost forgot... you don't own a 16 ga. double. In fact, you don't own any doubles. How sad. Just like one of those poor wannabe guys who wears a Harley Davidson jacket, but doesn't have a motorcycle.



It's a revolutionary design with migratory game plug installed it can be fired three times before reloading. The top barrel is used to shoot the cartridges the bottom serves to store them. Have you ever seen or heard of such a gun? smirk

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