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Seeing the ‘Mats, in Mankato, would beat seeing the White Stripes in East Lansing, hands down.

The only puke in either case would be you.

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You could learn a lot from JR. But, selling that RBL is going to be tough. Word got out, you know?

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Gene,
Getting hard answers was always tough on French guns. I think I’ve said it before, Good luck. You will need it.

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Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
You could learn a lot from JR

Now that’s funny 😄.


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Lay off the PBR....

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And just what might that "Word" be, Oh Tedster from the Midwest City with the airborne berets in the park- thanks to M.T. Moore-- Le Reynard


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Originally Posted by Argo44
Hey Ted, let's ask FAB:

Salut FAB, Pourrions-nous vous demander comment vous en êtes arrivé à cette conclusion? - "Je daterais sa fabrication entre 1918 et 1923." Nous nous intéressons particulièrement à l'effet de la guerre sur les épreuves. Existe-t-il un moyen de différencier les marques d'épreuve d'avant-guerre et d'après-guerre ?

(Hi Fab, could we ask how you came to this conclusion? - "I dated its fabrication to between 1918 and 1923." We are particularly interested in the effect that the war had on proof-marks. Is there a way to differentiate between pre-war and post-war proof marks?)

FAB and I discussed the conundrum about the cm/mm changeover date. We are trying to do this by analysis when surely there is a record of this somewhere in Saint-Etienne. He wrote to the proof-house and never received a reply. I may have to ask in-laws to go up there and do some research.

Salut Argo,

J'établis cette date de 1918 par déduction. Aucune marque particulière n'est en mesure de la confirmer.
Comme je l'ai dit plus haut, le modèle Halifax est apparu en 1914. Ce fusil était monté avec une crosse en seule partie.
Pendant le conflit 1914 / 1918, en France, la production des armes civiles a cessée. Et il est fort probable qu'à la reprise de l'activité 1918 /1919, cette crosse a été établie en 2 morceaux sans séparative en acier.

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La séparative en acier est apparue entre 1931 et 1936.

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Courtesy translation of Fab’s post:

Hi Argo, I set this date of 1918 by deduction. No particular brand is able to confirm this. As I said above, the Halifax model appeared in 1914. This rifle was mounted with a one piece stock. During the 1914/1918 conflict, in France, the production of civilian weapons ceased. And it is very likely that at the resumption of the activity 1918 / 1919, this butt was utilized in 2 pieces without steel separator.

The second post from Fab notes the steel divider appeared between 1931 and 1936.

That ends Fab’s input.



I have long looked for hard and fast rules to date the manufacture of French guns, but, each becomes a guess using clues that really only get us close.

Close, usually, is good enough.

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