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ed good #478924 04/27/17 05:32 PM
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"IF" it don't kick as hard then it don't shoot as hard, IE if you lowered the recoil with the long cone you also lowered the velocity of the charge.
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ed good #478926 04/27/17 06:05 PM
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Maybe the long FCs are just nominally advantageous with lighter loads and shorter shot columns, but more significant with heavier loads and longer shot columns. In the instance of the .410 results Stan mentions, the forcing cones become a greater factor as all loads in .410 have very long shot columns. Like the gradual tapers in tight fixed choke. The more shot crowded into the the transition area, the more need to make the transition gradual.

Case in point, I had the FCs lengthened on a Win. 101 thinking I could get close to full choke performance from the modified choked barrel. There was no discernible difference after the work with trap loads. However, with tricked up hunting loads (plated shot, buffer, slower burn rate powders) the patterns percentages were higher with the longer cones. The full choked barrel could throw nickle plated #6s in the 90% range, with 70% inside a 20" circle at 40 yards.

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Thanks Larry. Sherman Bell stated in his "Finding out for myself' series of articles for DGJ that he lengthened the forcing cones on ALL of his guns with short chambers, and then proceeded to use 2-3/4" shells.

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A friend and I polished the forcing cones on a set of skeet tubes. There was a marked improvement in pattern uniformity in all 3 gauges. We counted the BB's on the 410 and after polishing we put 25 more BB's in a 30 inch circle at 22 yards. Choke was '002. If the forcing cone is rough it is causing flyers.

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