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I'm trying to ship a gun to a potential buyer. None of the FFLs he is trying to go through will take a transfer unless its dealer to dealer. Of course the costs will increase to facilitate this.

In the past, the buyer would obtain a copy of an FFL from his dealer and I ship to the dealer. Has something changed in the ATF rules I am not aware of?

Thanks, RC

no new regs...sounds like some dealers may be concerned about receiving stolen goods directly...plus, if buyer does not pass background check, then receiving dealer has no where to legally return item...

That is what manager at LGS I have been dealing with for over 10 years told me. They want to dot the "i" and cross the "t". There is nothing wrong with that when it comes to interstate gun transactions.

Not legally required but most FFL holders operate this way. In the past I accepted transfers from individuals.....until some jackass sent me a fully loaded Henry lever action .22LR, even had one in the chamber! I now only do transfers for longtime clients, FFL to FFL.

If that's becoming the norm then cost to ship a $3K firearm with insurance is $70.00 m/l. Add the buyer's FFL fee and we're over $100.00, and if he decides to turn it around he's out of pocket at least $150.00. No wonder used guns in the $1500-$2500 range won't sell unless they're heavily discounted.

If the firearm is C&R eligible and the dealer refuses I will not deal with them on anything. This defeats the whole purpose of having a C&R and is IMO just an attempt by dealers to fatten their wallets. I have a C&R license and I've shipped and received numerous eligible guns to and from another C&R holder or an 01 FFL without any problems whatsoever over the years.
Jim

It's also known as making a living and being able to pay bills and put food on the table. Most places around here charge $50 per FFL transfer. I heard Bass Pro charges more because they do not want to bother with hassle or the extra paperwork. Not sure if that is true because I never ordered any guns through them.

James, I agree with you as I also have a C&R.

J�germeister, no that is called double dipping.

And then again, Fourth Armory in Marietta GA does free transfers both ways (you pay shipping on outgoing of course). They receive guns from individuals and are glad to email a copy of their FFL to dealers or individuals. They have a tip jar for underprivileged kids and if you offer to pay they point to the jar. I take in donuts or muffins for the ladies when I have a gun come in, and throw some money in the jar. Nicest folks in the world to deal with.

My LGS for years would take a seller's shipment without requiring an FFL shipment to him. His current policy is to now require shipment from an FFL holder. He went through an audit last year and there were no driver's license photocopies in a few transactions and flags were raised by the ATF. In some instances, he'd receive a gun with no driver's license photocopy in the package and despite repeated requests, none would be forthcoming. He hated to tell me about the new policy, but I understand. I wouldn't do it for $25 like he does.