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OMG, that's a funny episode.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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 Belts & Braces - Overhanging & Lower intercepting scears - so Charles Daly - Lindner examples w/ upper & lower scears would date post August 26, 1882.  Cheers, Raimey rse
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So,
Am I correct in understanding that we are considering both guns to be first Lindner serial number sequence, but before Heinrich took over from Georg?.
Regards
Ken
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Yes, Nr. 47 & 61 are in a hammerless sequence that began either w/ Henrich's founding of his business in 1874 or w/ the Patent Protection period for the 1875 A & D Body Action. For now it would seem that there was a hammergun sequence & a hammerless gun sequence???
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What piques my curiosity is what number was assigned to the A & D Body Action w/ Belts & Braces?
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The only stamping on the barrel is the number 120 and there are no proof stamps either only a number 1 and number 61 on the flats any help or information would be of great help/interest The lack of stampings on the receiver is strange. There is a stamping between the fireing pins it is Ansch & Seele # 347 Brevete. Could this be a very early gun if 347 is a serial number like the other gun pictured ?
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IMHO, if 61 is the serial number, it falls into the first Lindner serial number sequence, A&D makes it post 1874, and the absence of the first Lindner mark dates it pre-1877. So, Heinrich's father Georg was controlling production at that time, and figuring approx. 15 guns per month production, makes it possibly made in 1875. Or not, we'll see when Raimey jumps in.  Regards Ken
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So far, #3744 is cited as the latest appearance of the first mark. Within the first serial number sequence. I think we're on to something. If 61 was made in 1875, and 3744 was made in 1892, that gives total production of 3683 guns over 204 months, or 18 guns per month. As far as the first Lindner serial number sequence. Sounds like about the right amount of guns (four or five per week) that a guy with a rucksack trotting around Suhl could handle. Regards Ken
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I just looked at the ser # it is 61 engraved on trigger guard so may be a very early Linder gun with out stampings I was wondering why so little stampings and no proof marks now I am thinking this is a very early Linder there is an other stamp on the barrels but is so small looks like typewriter keys even with a 10 power loup I can not make it out the quality is poor compaired to the other stamps on the gun. I will steel wool it tomorrow and see if I can make it out it is so small hard to see it is stamped.
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