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Ken61, what say we commence another thread dedicated to Charles Daly, Lindner, etc. locks? I'm confident that Georg Lindner played only a supporting roll post 1874, but H.A. Lindner's sourcing, like to Triebel(a family he married into), etc. continued on the coattails of his father.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

Wow, step away from the BBS for a couple of days only to find three Lindner threads underway!

Compared to ten years ago a lot more in now known about the 65+years of Prussian Daly production in terms of makers and models and relationships. However, the very early years of Daly production (to include the OPs gun), and the last couple of years as the company was sold and resold, still hold a lot of unknowns.

Geo. - I am going to bet your serial number is 834, not 334. You should be able to confirm by looking behind the trigger guard and also on the forearm iron once you remove it. I can see your gun has a thru-lump. This was a design change that Lindner made at approx. serial number 500 (second series (HAL marking)). Since that number splits your two serial numbers in question, I am betting on the #834.

A couple quick questions to help determine the model number of your gun -

- Is the gun secured by cross-bolt or dolls head extension?

- Does the gun actually say "featherweight" on the rib inscription?


Best regards,
Ken

It's just the number "41" stamped on both locks.





Nice bit of case coloring under all the crud. Other components are nice and shiny as well.

I now see that Joe's lock is similar, but not the same as 441.

Regards
Ken

Great idea for a Daly Lock thread. IMO, the emphasis should be determining not only lock design and sourcing, but mfg date using serial number, and relationship to the specific Lindner in charge at the time.

Those aspects would be nice to know for those considering purchase of a Prussian Daly.

The SN is 834. Found it plainly stamped on the lower tang (duh). Doll's head extension. Yes, the rib does actually say "Featherweight". I appreciate your help on this...Geo

It sounds like you have a model 120 Featherweight.

The 1894 Schoverling, Daly, and Gales catalog lists the gun at $120, a ten dollar premium over the standard model 120.

The odd piece with your Daly (and other featherweights in your Daly serial number range) is that it was was made a few years after 1894 and there is not a featherweight model listed in the either the 1895 or 1897 catalogs (or later catalogs). However, it is clear that the featherweight Dalys (actually marked as "featherweights", not just sub-6 lb guns) were made after they were no longer highlighted in the SD&G catalogs. I have two featherweight Dalys in the same boat.

Ken

Thanks Ken. Now I know what I have. It's a really nice handling gun. Barrels are 28" and choked M & IM...Geo

Ken61:

Do note that the example of which you are a custodian & Joe's have the retaining pin/bolt thru the Keystone spring stop, being the same as the Scott. So the position of the crosspin just might be a designation w/in a column for which to start?

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

So,

Do you think we can attribute both Joe's gun as well as 441's locks to Scott? If so, that would mean that the five digit serial number guns as well as at least some of the three digit guns like 441 parts were still being sourced from Birmingham? Since they lack the first Lindner mark can they be attributed to Georg? Dating them to prior to Heinrich taking over and the use of the Crossed Pistols and Crown mark?

It appears that the break between Georg and Heinrich may occurred in the four digit range (between 1569 and 1662) indicated by the use of the first Lindner mark, attributed to Heinrich.

Regards
Ken