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Thanks GEO. Been into guns for awhile, but new fascination with doubles, so scouting pawn shops to try and buy some older ones just to have and preserve. Trying some cold bluing and wood work on them.

You can determine if the gun is on face, and tight (not necessarily the same thing), by yourself, very easily. Take off the forend. Hold the gun vertically, and by the receiver, and shake it. If you cannot feel ANY movement the gun is tight in action. Put the forend back on and hold the gun horizontally and between you and a strong light source. Look for light between the breech ends of the barrels and the standing breech of the receiver. Look very closely, moving the gun around minutely to be sure. If you can see absolutely no light between the two it is probably on face. You can try to close the gun with a piece of shim stock between the breech ends of the barrels and the standing breech to be sure ..... .001"-.002".

SRH

I bought my first Vintage Double at a pawn shop. It was a Remington 1889 Grade 2 Hammer Gun with Twist barrels. About the same shape as your Daly, without the hammer issue. The bores looked about the same. Here's what I did, which is what I do with any double with rough looking bores.

Buy a wood dowel or metal rod that will fit into a power drill. Cut a slit about two inches down one end. Buy two Scotchbrite pads, one green, one maroon. Start with the green, cut a strip to a little less than 2", center it into the rod slit. Saturate with light oil, wrap it spirally around rod so it fits snugly into the breech. At slow speed, work up and down bore, making sure it doesn't come completely out of muzzle. After three or so passes, remove and run a few patches down bore. Repeat with maroon pad. Repeat with bronze bore brush wrapped with 000 steel wool. Repeat with 0000 steel wool. Use oil with each step. Clean bore and inspect. Now you can really determine how bad the pits are, my 1889 tubes looked totally different, and it's been my pheasant gun ever since.

Below is what I posted on a thread on Shotgunworld:


A Lindner-Daly hammergun built on the same platform as Lindner's father Georg Lindner made for Charles Daly. K.S. looks to be the tubeset knitter on the Belgian sourced tubes & both tubes wear H.A. Lindner's quality control mark of crossed sidearms surmounted by a crown. Lindner continued to use this quality control mark on his wares until the proof laws was initiated in 1893. I would hazard a guess that this example was completed in the early 1880s. Karl Streng(Karl Streng & Companie of Goldlauter) is one possibility for the mechanic w/ initials K.S, although a possibility exists for a Schlegelmilch mechanic. Hugo Kolb was the engraver that applied the adornment. Is it a 10 bore or 12 bore?

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

Thx Raimey, Ken, Stan.

Did Lindner make mostly guns for export or were there guns sold local, with his marks or name on them?

"H.A. Linder - Suhl
Founded 1874
Berlin Salesrooms
P. Helbig Wilhelmstrasse 53
Specialty
Charles Daly Guns
For
Export to North America"

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=230451

From an advert. Most were for export but there were a few that were inland.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

Anyone have an idea what years both Georg and Heinrich were active? In order to determine when Heinrich took over the business, and enable us to determine if Georg handled the early Daly guns? It'd also be interesting to know if Ernst was old enough to be involved before his death in 1915.... Anyone have the pic of their shop handy? I can't seem to find mine, or the thread we discussed this last time..

Georg - Circa 1840 - 187?

H.A. Lindner - 1874 - WWI, or thereabouts.

Ernst - 1906/1907 - 1915(7.06.1883 - 6.16.1915)
Big expansion in 1905 anticipating Ernst Lindner's taking of the helm.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

Anyone ever come across a guild gun with any Lindner markings? Trying to figure out if there is a decent number of his guns we've not discovered yet. I check almost every Daly gun for Lindners marks and find most are not so marked.