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You'd like Scranton, King. I do. Great Polish, Italian, and Irish history. St Ann Basilica is there. The mother of Mary and patron saint of the Mic Mac (sp).

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I like Halifax...I did a consulting engagement there years back..Enjoyed it and it's people...Kids were in school for about 2 years, didn't seem to hurt em any...

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I like Thunder Bay, especially Trowbridge and Kekabeka Falls. The harbor and grain elevator tours were pretty neat.


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Originally Posted By: Grouse Guy
King

Thanks for providing some balance and reality-check to the discussion.
Sorry about the manners of the mob here. Some are sharks that respond primordially as only they can to blood in the water....

GG

Primordial?

Maybe you missed the comments back around the mid teens page numbers. Vile, poisonous, racist, ring any bells? There's more, are you interested? Manners? King tells it like it is, not always veiled, from his point of view. For me, as always, it's about a crystal clear ideology, not personal.

Did you catch any of obama, in a foreign country, telling those failed folks that all who voted against him and hill were better off due his policies? To help balance things out, what was hill going to do for you, the country, double guns and upland hunting?

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To help balance things out, what was hill going to do for you, the country, double guns and upland hunting?


For one, not disposing of public lands to the private sector. Many of us unwashed working men do most if not all our hunting on public lands. An explicit plank of the R-party is to dispose of federal lands. That will be nothing but a stake through the heart of hunting, which most of us here do with double guns.

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Originally Posted By: Grouse Guy
....For one, not disposing of public lands to the private sector. Many of us unwashed working men do most if not all our hunting on public lands. An explicit plank of the R-party is to dispose of federal lands. That will be nothing but a stake through the heart of hunting, which most of us here do with double guns.

Sorry GG. The 'platform' was never to dispose of fed land to the 'private sector'. It was to turn it over to state control. Take a look, back in July, the President elect said he opposed that position and will leave fed land under fed control. What makes you think he won't hold to that?

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In his first interview since a minority voted for him, Trump is already walking back basic campaign promises (Obamacare repeal, the Wall, etc.).
Here in Montana the state is prohibited by the R-controlled legislature from acquiring additional lands, under the pretext that it is a state budget buster (during things like a big fire year) and that the private sector manages land better. So if a federal R plank is to dispose of federal lands, yet a state R position is that additional public lands are unaffordable and that states are ill-equipped to assume management, the private sector is the only remaining recipient. Given his tendencies, Trump would be convinced to abandon yet another campaign promise in a New York minute.

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If your think GG and King are pissy now just wait till the first 100 days and "Trumpenstroke" !

“Trumpenstroke“. – The act of eliminating dictatorial fiat with the counter stroke of a President Trump pen.




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Ben Deeble,

You are to the "unwashed working man" what McDonald's is to 5-star cuisine, and I should know, having some fifteen years of knowledge of your activities as an upland bird biologist for the NWF here in western Montana.

A number of members here also still remember you for being the instigator/point-man suggesting we look into the possible elimination of lead shot for upland bird hunting throughout Montana (I save ALL my e-mails, should you like to revisit that, or members can simply dredge up our individual post archives if they're that bored.) Or maybe we could chat about a Montana deer season that you somehow got confused on not so many years back and started a day early sans permission on posted land. Ouch!

How bout we just leave it lie, Ben, while recognizing that many here are taking a wait-and-see approach to this election and what it will mean for the country. A lot of campaign rhetoric doesn't necessarily equate to action at this point, IMO. But what we do know is what it would have meant to our 2nd Amendment rights on a number of fronts, had it gone the other way. Lastly, I'm not the least surprised that this was never an issue for you in your support of Hillary......which is 'why' we don't need you to "apologize" for us, as you just have.

Rob

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Grouse Guy, just curious. Have you ever been associated with Greenpeace in some capacity other than doner?


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