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Just received this and have found out so far what the crown over letters mean. Am I right in determining the date of Feb 1907, and being the 20th to be proofed? Also what caliber is the rifle? I found the 67/49 means .410, is this correct? What cartridge would this be? Any other historical info that can be determined from these pics would be very appreciated. Do's and don't s with this?

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I'd hazard a guess it was from the mid 1890s & chambered for some 43 Mauser variant. Just do a chamber cast, modify some brass & call it what you want. Unique in that Meffert didn't adorn many of their wares. Lovely ocular under the top tang selector.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

Thank you, my father bought it over 50 years ago. He did do a chamber cast but I don't have a clue what to do with it. Why 1890's?

Just from the marks & overall configuration of the components. It could stretch into the early 1900s but for sure is pre-1912. Ford is busy w/ some chamber specifics I'm sure.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

Thank you!

Odd that the water table doesn't wear the serial number? Can you post an image of the doll's head well area? Make some measurements on the chamber cast.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

Nice early Meffert. Beautiful artwork with exceptional game scenes. Thank you for posting. The game scenes are so nice that I for one would enjoy seeing more pictures. As to the rifle barrel feel a good start would be doing a chamber cast, slugging the barrel and post dimensions per standard issue case layouts. Many here can help guide you from there.

Regards,

Mark

RoTuN,
Your fine old Meffert drilling was made before 1912, since the bore(not groove or bullet) diameter was expressed in "gauge"( 69,49 ga.). After this time, it would have been marked 10.41mm and whatever the case length is, would have also been shown. The fact that it carried any proof mark, means it was made after early 1893, when the proof law became effective. To determine the nominal caliber of the rifle, it will be necessary that you either make, or have someone else make a chamber cast, and "slug" the barrel. My "gut feeling" is you will find that it is chambered for one of the 10.75 LK express or Drilling cartridges. I do not believe it is chambered for one of the 43 Mauser variants, as the chamber doesn't show a significant shoulder. Once we determine the nominal caliber, if you want to load ammo for it; some of us here will be happy to help you.
Mike

Typo there Ford, 67/49 lead spheres to the pound.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse