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I did a little research and found that the "DRGM", stands for Deutsches Reich Gebrauchsmuster and indicates a German Reich Registered Design
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The D.G.R.M could be for any item on the drilling from improvements in the locks, selector, pop up rear sight, or anything. With out the number, it is difficult to know. Krupp Stahl is often misunderstood as the "maker" by Americans, it just means the barrels were made from Krupp steel. Such guns without a makers name, are often misnamed "Guild Guns"; they actually are guns made for "the trade". That means they were made for someone else to retail, the retailer could add what ever name they wanted. Larger companies generally added a name, but smaller ones often did not.
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SCH = schrot = shot or shotgun. Under the selector the other direction is there a "K"?
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Lovely addition there Sharps. I'd hazard a guess the button toe cartridge trap had a registered design?
I realize it experienced proof in Z-M, but some of the Suhl makers advertised it as follows:
August Schuler peddled it as a Modell 12, Selbstspanner Drilling mit Verschlußhelbel über dem Bügel(Roux), verlängerter Laufschene.... or a Modell 13 w/ better hunting scene engraving & mit automatischem Visier or auto flip up sight.
E. Schmidt & Habermann labeled it as a Modell 500 Roux Drilling, System mit Verschlußjebel auf dem Abzugsbügel liegend, doppelter Keileintritt, verlängerte mattierte Laufschiene....
F.W. Keßler offered it as a Selbstspannerdrilling System Modern, Spannung durch den Verschlußhebel, Umschaltung durch Scheiber auf der Scheibe.....
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Yes, there is a "K" on the selector...what is german word for rifle? Hard to see in my picture, but yes the DRGM appears in the shell holder THREE times!
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Is there a number associated w/ the gebrauchsmuster / D.R.G.M. anywhere on the cartridge trap? That just may point to the maker. K denotes a selection for Kugel, ball / bullet.
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Lovely addition there Sharps. I'd hazard a guess the button toe cartridge trap had a registered design?
I realize it experienced proof in Z-M, but some of the Suhl makers advertised it as follows:
August Schuler peddled it as a Modell 12, Selbstspanner Drilling mit Verschlußhelbel über dem Bügel(Roux), verlängerter Laufschene.... or a Modell 13 w/ better hunting scene engraving & mit automatischem Visier or auto flip up sight.
E. Schmidt & Habermann labeled it as a Modell 500 Roux Drilling, System mit Verschlußjebel auf dem Abzugsbügel liegend, doppelter Keileintritt, verlängerte mattierte Laufschiene....
F.W. Keßler offered it as a Selbstspannerdrilling System Modern, Spannung durch den Verschlußhebel, Umschaltung durch Scheiber auf der Scheibe.....
Cheers,
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Raimey, Sharps and Mike, many thanks to each of you for your input thus far. Raimey, can I assume then that the drilling was made by one of the aforementioned makers, or would there be many makers using that same combination of pop-up sight and shell holder? Also, you mentioned an "associated number". Is the DRGM usually accompanied by a number?
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