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Was hoping to bend this stock back to neutral, but, gauging by the inletting near the trigger plate, it looks as though the considerable cast was built in. Can anyone tell if that is the case? If so, will it present a bending issue?

My guess is that it was probably built-in cast. I have built a couple of stocks with cast, but never tried to bend them afterward. On the other hand, I had several shotgun stocks bent by someone who has the same design jig as Mike Orlen. I have seen stocks moved from cast off to cast on. Sometimes it works, sometimes the stock loses the bend and returns to near original position. Also, you should know, the fit and finish of metal to wood inletting for both the top and bottom tangs will be changed if you move the stock very far.

The location of the lower tang inletting in relation to the guard inletting suggests it was built with cast.

Concur with Dudley, built with cast and although it might be bent it will not be right

I might be able to take a little bit of the cast, say half an inch out of it, and make it shootable (with an extension pad). Hoping that such a bend wouldn't be too disruptive to the overall geometry of the gun.

What is wrong with shooting the gun as it is ?
Are you left handed ?
O.M

Cast off for a righty that doesn't need it is just as bad as not enough for someone who does. If you can't mount the gun with your eyes closed and, when you open them, be looking down the center of the rib it's not right. I can mount a gun three times and tell you if I can shoot it well, or not.

Every person is a different case study in fitting. For example, I'm right handed, but the buttstock on my MX8 is built for a lefty. It has obvious cast on. I slid the adjustable cheekpiece as far to the right as it would go, which wasn't much, and it was perfect. But, I have a very skinny face. Been shooting it for some 8-9 years, now.

SRH

I shot it as is, just not particularly well. When shouldered quickly, I am looking over the right barrel as opposed to straight down the rib. A little cast off is tolerable for me as I shoot my Beretta satisfactorily that way. I think I shoot best with almost no or neutral cast though.

From the photo I surmise that by "built in" you mean the wood was cut for the cast.

My Westley Richards has the tang bent to the right, starting just behind the fences which is beyond "built in", it is well nigh cast in steel.

In a restocking project (just to see if I could) the Wenig New American style proved itself. It gives the required face setoff with no cast of the main body of the stock. In case you ever think of restocking.

An inexpensive way to fix your problem is to add some material to the left side of the stock. Something undoable that will do no permanent harm to the wood. That long trigger guard and its fate during bending cause concern.

Shotgunlover, yes it looked to me like the wood was cut for the cast as opposed to the stock being merely bent at some point after manufacture.

I have tried to ascertain whether the top tang is curved as well. I am not certain that it is or isn't. Funny you mention WR, as I pegged them as a potential maker of the gun.

I was also loosely contemplating an amateur attempt at restocking. Worst case scenario would be that I end up out $100-150 on an eBay Walnut blank. I wasn't familiar with the Wenig New American style, but it looks interesting.

Prior to that, I was going to maybe fit a polystyrene "cheek pad" made from scrap foam with tape just for fit and maybe a kickeez slip on pad to see how much headway I could make in fit with a few minor reversible modifications to the existing stock. If those don't yield improvements, restocking might be the only workable option.