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  All right Baumgarten, which Brenneke lockup might this be? Cheers, Raimey rse
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Wonder what you'd have to do to get that set of locking mechanisms to shoot loose?
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What's interesting here? What I can see is a Greener with double underlogs.
Brenneke never has made an invention about locks and also not named to him.
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The Brenneke Verschluss had nothing to do with the "locks", as we know them. Rather, it had to do with the locking system to keep the barrels closed. It is said that he demonstrated the strength of his system by firing it without the underlug locks installed. The ones I have seen were "open" and did not have the section of frame covering the side lugs.
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Raimey, Sorry for running a tad late on this, way too busy again. Anyway, the gun in your pictures does look like a variation of Brenneke's Selbstpanner-Sicherheits-Drilling doesn’t it?     Do you have any more pictures? Do you know who made it? Ger, You’re a little off on your notion that Wilhelm Brenneke did not design internal action mechanism. For example please refer to patentschrifts 94620 and 95046. The Brenneke drilling above features a four point safety mechanism designed by Wilhelm Brenneke as the safest firearm on the market at the time … other than those that weren’t loaded. Mr. Brenneke is known to most as a munitions developer starting with his 8X72R and his well-known slug cartridge designs of 1898. He personally was not a gun maker but instead contracted others to make firearms per his specifications. Who made his combination guns is still a bit of a mystery with some suspecting any number of the Merkel family but we do know that he had his bolt rifles, utilizing Mauser actions, made by E. Schmidt & Habermann (ESHA) such as my 7X64 Model B bearing his name …   Regards, Mark
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Baumgarten: It does close resemble it but from the images there seem to be more frame material left in this somewhat beefy frame? And 3 serial numbers on what looks to be an alloy or Dural frame?    Some text noting Brenneke Verschluß. Cheers, Raimey rse
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Raimey, It appears Junior here wasn't firing on all cylinders in the late hours last night. The "Blitz" action shown in your pictures flew by me like an owl in the dark. What you have there appears to be a Brenneke "Ideal" Verschluß while the picture shown in your book is the Brenneke Verschluß, see below ...   It would be pretty wild, at least to me, if the frame was Dural aluminum. Regards, Mark
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Thanks Baumgarten for the effort. I'm just accustom to seeing the 2nd version with the exposed lumps on the tubeset. I'd have to dig, but it might be the barrel extensions were from the mind of F.W. Keßler? All are lifted images from an auction.
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   Many thanks to Marc for the images. Cheers, Raimey rse
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