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moses #431701 01/07/16 10:16 AM
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I love .410's.....easiest gun in the world (to sell)!!! smile


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I thank you all for your input to what has become a very informative thread on the .410.

As John E, Gary W & KY John stated, the .410 is enough gun if used for what it is intended & within it's capabilities.
If I am down the creek with the 30 30 to shoot pigs & I see a Buffalo 200 yards out on the flats, am I going to shoot him ? The answer is no, of course. On the other hand if the buff was down the creek & on the end of my barrel I could empty all 7 into him thereby guaranteeing a kill. I learned this at 19 when hunting Buffs with a 12 G Greener double & buckshot. I near got killed myself.
So yes Samuel Hoggson I will not hunt pigs with the .410 single I have now while I have a 30 30, 308 & 54 flinter. I just thought heavy loads, quick second shot, bit of sport, ya know, but Nah ! you are correct.

Concerning gun purchases. Since when has need been a priority when desire overcomes. Fin2Feather says they are cute. Good enough for me.
Others said light to carry, even better.
I do not have one in a double, another justification.

The kid next door is ready for shotgun shooting at 15 but he is small framed & a twelve might knock him about too much. A .410 would be good to start him with & it might possibly lessen the chances of him developing a flinch as KY pointed out. This I would hope would carry over to shooting a twelve better at a bit latter on. Just like I started at 14 with a 22RF & then went to 303 & 25 06.

John Roberts, you do not know me or my capabilities or my trade skills yet you say a fore end iron & wood is a bridge too far. I said I can do it & I am equipped with the workshop machinery & metal work skills that makes many such pieces of what is very simple machine parts. Hardening & tempering & forging & welding are all included. I am not Dewey Vicknair & neither do I need be him to scale down the working principle of a 12 to .410 fore end & then make one.

All in all I think that I will go & buy this gun even if it is just for fun.
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Fun is the best reason to buy any gun. For the wife is the second best. smile

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Why do you mention a 12 instead of a .410? There are gauges between. A mild 20 or 28 would be best.

It might be for other reasons, who knows, but both my brother and I were started on 20 ga guns and neither of us has or has had any issue with recoil. In my estimation, we learned early on that guns recoil and that it's a physically insignificant event. I think that a mild gun would have not prepared us for what 'real' guns shoot like. That's my guess, I can't prove it.

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Chuck H is a fine shot.

I watched him kill three wild Kansas roosters with a 410 one wintry day. The fields were covered in snow, the early season birds were sticking, and the dogs were pointing, and Chuck and his 410 were dialed in.

Chuck is a better shot than I. I wouldn't hunt wild roosters with a 410. But I know Chuck knows how to do it right and that he has the skill and the discipline to do it ethically.

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I should have pictures of that event...but cant find them...ChuckH? dig yours out....That was quite a day...

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GregSy, around here you get either 12g or .410 shotgun ammo.
The .410 is a very popular snake gun to have & use around the homesteads, out buildings & the fowl house. A plus on the .410 is that Mum is confident using it while Dad & the boys are not there. For this reason most of the locally stocked shells are #6 or at best #4.
While the 12g is a standard which most have come to accept as the only choice & unless a dedicated gun nut like us they might not even know about the 28, 20 or 16. The 10 is an outlaw. Any ammo or reloading components other than 12g is definitely a special order accompanied by wait & cost, so 12g it is.
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Originally Posted By: Last Dollar
I should have pictures of that event...but cant find them...ChuckH? dig yours out....That was quite a day...


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I remember those pics well, but not all the names. Could you provide the names, Chuck, Mike, or Joe?

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Originally Posted By: moses
Please try to sell me one.
I do own a 410 single but rarely use it for anything while I have a twelve gauge readily to hand.


I won't try and sell you anything. When conditions are right I can kill the most fragile game bird in North America just as easily with a four-ten as with anything else. When conditions are not right it would be the poorest choice I could make.

On the other hand, the twelve gauge you mentioned is always the last gun I would choose for what I do. I own a total of one twelve gauge double gun and I only load it with 3/4 or 7/8 ounce loads. Ninety-nine days out of a hundred I would choose both a smaller and lighter gun for launching such miniscule payloads.

I could post pictures like these all day long just as a number of others could but suffice it to say that the combination of shooter, conditions, and quarry are often compatible with the little gun.





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