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I found old 16ga Auto-5: short barrel around 25" in length IC with 70mm chambers. The gun is in very good condition with some handling marks. While little heavy to modern standards (when compared to Benelli or Beretta) it is of all steel and wood construction. Is it difficult to adjust recoil spring to make it reliable and to prevent forend wood from splitting. What loads are recommended.
Are the standard US game loads ok (Remington seems most available) or should one stick with specialty loads from RST, for example. thanks.

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I have had two of them. Try the regular setting with the recoil
spring and concave-convex washer and I think the 1 oz loads from Federal or Remington would work fine. Back in the 50s-60s a lot of shooters used the even heavier loads in the 16, but they are unnecessary.

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I always used 1 1/8 oz loads in mine( 26" IC),and it killed a pick up truck load of game for me. It never failed to operate, regardless of how I had it set. My dad gave it to me when I was 16,and I passed it to my son when he was 16. This thread brought back good memories, I wish I could still follow a bird dog.
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The gun is 1/4 choke so I kinda wish someone loaded light Upland Steel loads for the 16ga. I know official verdict seems to be no steel in Browning fixed choke guns made before ca 1975. For those made after that date smaller shot can be used (no BB, BBB, T or F). This one is an old one with stripling on top of barrel to reduce glare, but I do not think occasional upland steel load would do any damage. Anyhow the major drawback is lack of affordable non-tox ammo in 16ga. Nice gun, but I have to do some thinking before putting down some hard earned cash to buy it. Thanks.

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Originally Posted By: Der Ami
I always used 1 1/8 oz loads in mine( 26" IC),and it killed a pick up truck load of game for me. It never failed to operate, regardless of how I had it set. My dad gave it to me when I was 16,and I passed it to my son when he was 16. This thread brought back good memories, I wish I could still follow a bird dog.
Mike


Yes, it brings back memories of better days. That is what attracted me to the gun in the first place. Today reasonably priced guns can't be made that way. Most semi-autos are produced with little or no human touch and have plastic stocks or worse yet look like a pile of leaves and twigs.

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I have used 1 1/8 loads in mine also, but it is an overbore load and really not necessary and the heavier Express loads are more punishing to the gun..

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If it is a Sweet Sixteen its probably fine to shoot with modern loads, but if it a sixteen gauge A-5 it may be an older gun. I have my Grandfather's A-5 16 but it is a '30s gun and I don't shoot it anymore.

There are two ways to set the spring and friction rings. Illustrations are easy to find. I'd set for the heavy load and shoot the lightest load it will eject. If the gun has original 2 3/4 chambers it probably a later model...Geo

P.S.: I'd bet RST's will fail to eject. Number 7 1/2 or smaller steel shot would probably not be a problem.

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Geo:
With all due respect I have to question your above statement. I have a Sweet Sixteen that was made in 1952 and I sure wouldn't shoot anything out of it but lead. Please correct me if I'm in error here.
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Jim, please note that I qualified the steel shot answer to size 7 1/2 and smaller. With today's plastic collars I think the barrel gouging concern is a non problem and I don't believe there is any problem with the small shot bridging at the choke like with bigger shot. That said, you are following the Browning advisory by choosing not to shoot steel at all in your own Belgian Browning and you can't go wrong there...Geo

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Originally Posted By: Stallones
I have used 1 1/8 loads in mine also, but it is an overbore load and really not necessary and the heavier Express loads are more punishing to the gun..

What is your criteria for Overbore??
If one considers load density or weight per equal SqIn of bore area then 1 1/8oz in a 16 is about equal to;
1 3/8oz in 12ga
1oz in 20ga
3/4oz in 28ga
7/16oz in .410
Even if we include the 1 1/8oz load in the 16 it is probably the least overloaded of the lot. The .410 is of course the most overloaded.


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