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There are no signs of any London marks on the barrels that I can see in the photo .Usually the London provisional mark was in the rear centre of the flat and quite deep , so even if the old marks had been filed off which would seem strange ,I would expect to see some sign of the originals . From this I drew the conclusion that the barrels we see are not original. Either the gun has been re-barreled or had an additional set made and these are the ones you have now .
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J and O? That doesn't help in this case. J and B would be either 1958 or 1983, but that does not fit with the other proofmarks. In either of those cases, the barrel flats would have pressure expressed in tons.
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The borders engraving is similar to a Boswell I used to own. Very nice.
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Interesting. So it looks like it might be their top-grade, sidelock shotgun. Guess I was wrong.
Harkom may have made it and had it proofed in London.
I think Dickson did that with a lot of their guns - especially the Round Actions.
I'll look into it some more to see what I can figure out.
Nice looking gun, and I'm sure it's rare in a 16g.
Thanks for sharing.
BTW: I've seen a few Harkom sidelocks with original Boss single triggers. I've wondered if Harkom and Boss (or John Robertson) had some kind of relationship.
OWD I have a Harkom SLE in 12 bore that was made 1904-1905 with the Boss single trigger. Boss's patent number 22894 for the single trigger is engraved on the bottom of the frame. Robertson filed the patent in 1894 and the patent was set to expire, in the practice of that time, after 14 years. Interesting to note that this gun was sent to Boss to be sleeved sometime after 1954.
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Re sleeving dates . . . I seem to recall, from previous discussions, that the practice of sleeving didn't begin until after WWII. Maybe post-1950, or even post-1954. Does anyone have, or has anyone seen, a gun that was sleeved prior to 1954? That would be easy enough to spot based on the reproof marks. 1954 and later would have the "tons" proofmark.
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Vic, yes it was the fences that drew my eye to that possibility. I have a friend who has a boxlock with the same fences and the JA Joseph Asbury mark on the barrels indicating a strong link to Browns. Gun is marked Hardys of Alnwick, who make fishing tackle but did sell guns also. I just need him to decide to sell it to me! Lagopus.....
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