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Raimey,
The misunderstanding is caused by trying to use two different words to mean the same thing, which they do not. "Einzelladungen" is the term for the prepackaged loads for 8.15x46R, and "Einzelladerbuechse" is the term for a singleshot rifle.
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I agree Ford & Wolfgang is scouring the bowels of the internet to see if something akin exists in German texts. Just wanted to point it out as error or not.
Kind Regards,
Raimey
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Raimey, Mike is right with the terms. Here is a Matritzensatz for 6,5x27R. Funny, it's on a Czech site and is produced in the US: the http://de.strobl.cz/DS6.5x27R-ch4d-reloading-dies-1/and more synonyms: 6,5mmEinzelladerbüchse 6,5mmEINZELLADERBÜCHSE 332 6,5mmRonezewski 6,5mmRonezewski (mit Rand) 332 6,5mmRONEZEWSKY PISTOLE 332 6,5x27R P 6,5x27R P Tesching 332 6,5x27R Ronezewski 332 6,5x27R TESCHING 6,6x27,2R TESCHING Cheers, Gunwolf
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As there was a rimless 6.5x27 too, meant for repeaters, the monicker "Einzellader" = single shot made sense for the rimmed 6.5x27R. Remember, before WW1 the now German cartridge designations (nominal caliber)x (case length)and "R" were not yet in common use. Cartridges were often called this way: 27/6,5 mit Rand (= 6.5x27R) or M88/9mm mit Rand (= 9x57R). Relating the name "6.5x27R Einzellader" to the Einzelladungen once available for the 8.15x46R shows insufficient familiarity with the German language. Likely Frank C. Barnes in Cartridges of the World started this misunderstanding and every other expert like Dixon simply copied it from this "authority".
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Axel,
I'm not sure Frank Barnes is the real culprit. The way it reads, it seems he wrote the basic text and someone else sent him an erroneous "correction", which he seems to have added with the (*)astrisk. Of course, as editor, he would have been responsible anyway.As you well know, there are other errors in Cartridges of the World, started by contributors and not corrected by whoever was the editor at the time.Also editors sometimes introduce mistakes by adding making their own changes.As usual, I can be wrong.
Mike
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