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[quote=Rocketman]Two things quickly come top mind. 1) Do you really (I mean do you KNOW) that you shoot game guns well enough to invest in a pair? [quote]
That's a good point, Don. However . . . if you find you DO like and shoot game guns well, a pair is not a bad investment. We often talk about having a "backup" gun. If you have a pair, then your backup gun is the same as your go-to gun. Thus, it can be worth the investment even if you never intend to use them as a pair. One of my A&N pair was in the shop for serious repair (my fault--really STUPID--not an issue with the gun) during bird season. All I did was switch to #2. And if you look at prices for pairs in this country, you may see that--at least on occasion--it's less than twice the value of one of them.
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At first glance they appear to be a very well-matched pair. This is because they are photos of the same gun. Enlarged images of the pair from the auction site show stock graining, scratches and dings to be identical. Well-matched indeed.
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Bill,
Good Eye!
Now that you mention it, it is obvious with out even enlarging the image....
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Wonder what the other gun looks like ?
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So both guns have 19 thou' walls ?, franc
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McKinney - I don't mean to come off as presumptuous, but do you really need a pair? Are you heavily involved in the shooting sports where you employ another guy as your loader?
I think you would be much better served by keeping your money and keeping your eye sharp for a single gun, selling domestically, which is not only sound in every regard but fits you well and has that certain pizazz that just calls out to you.
If you DO need a pair, then my second paragraph still serves as my advice, but for two guns.
Good Luck in your search and HAVE FUN finding your treasure!
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McKinney, per my valuation method, I'd say the following. These guns appear to be Webley Screw-Grip actioned and of modest quality per the engraving (engraving usually matches the guns over-all quality grade closely) , not more than a second grade BLE, and that is likely a bit generous.. I'll say their current condition is similar to heavy use but no abuse (this is a bit generous considering the barrel that needs sleeving). Army & Navy brand is valued in the market at level three (note that gun quality is not considered in this number). So, BV3-OQ6-CC4 = $1,766 per gun. You might pay a tad bit of a premium for the case and the pair. If you want a bargain basement pair, these might be candidates; you will have trouble getting your money back most likely. IMO, $4,000 in your hands is the tippy top.
You might call Bonham's and get an overview of Lot #139; make sure the guns are of UK manufacture. Those guns look like a better buy to me and they might come cheaper (unless I missed something!!). You can fix stock issues a lot more cheaply and easily (usually) than barrel problems.
DDA
Last edited by Rocketman; 03/31/14 04:07 PM.
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Don, would your brand value change if we knew who actually made the guns . . . since Army & Navy used several different makers? Possible to find that out, because A&N records are available through the University of Glasgow.
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Don, would your brand value change if we knew who actually made the guns . . . since Army & Navy used several different makers? Possible to find that out, because A&N records are available through the University of Glasgow. No, the name on the gun seems to be what the market values. At one time I thought the actual maker might have economic value, but I have been unable to identify any to date. DDA
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