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Just picked up a Remington 12 gauge double- sn is P138129- 28" Damascus barrels with clean bores, chokes read IC right barrel (front trigger) and Imp. Mod. or 1/2 way between Mod & Full left barrel (rear trigger) double triggers, ejectors, uncut stock and barrels, original buttplate and pg cap-- all numbers match- both barrel undersides are stamped as follows-- LAEY-- can anyone give me an aprox. DOM for this gun- thanks!!

RWTF, according to Semmer's book, 138129 would be from 1910, last year of production. But these records are really based on shipping, not production, and as they closed out the line, 1910 was a big year for shipping. The number range was from just a few guns under 138000 to just a few under 141200. So it's likely yours shipped early in the year.

Thanks, my Canuck friend- Do you know what the LAEY stamping on each underbarrel signify? Also, on the bottom of thre barrel ;lug-- at front is the upper case letter "P"-- at the rear section is 51 over XX- que pasa???

Those are good questions. Just walking out the door to take my boy to hockey practice (like a good Canadian) so I'll check later tonight but the quick answer is no one knows. It's a mystery that Semmer and others have not yet been able to solve.

The P in front of a 100,000 series serial number denotes the gun is a model 1894 (vs. a model 1900). The P and Q in front of model 1900 serial numbers was an inventory symbol.

Nobody knows what the barrels stampings such as LAEY stand for. That is is lost in time.

It appears you know the gun is as A grade from the subject of your post, the letter A should be stamped on the watertable. You mention your gun has an orginal p/g cap. That strikes me odd, most 1894 A grades came with what they called a half pistol grip which is similiar to a Prince of Whale grip, a rounded wood knob with no cap.

Your factory pattern results should be stamped on the barrel lug, the first number is a implied 3. 12 gauge guns were patterned with 1 1/4 ounce of 8, 511 pellets if memory serves.

The Remington doubles are good guns, I have two 1894 10ga guns and 12ga 1900 KE.

Thanks- the buttstock is a replacement, good dims and the top spur (aka- widow's peak) Rem/UMC logo embossed- and correct period screws- also the floor plate screws are unmolested.. You are right, Sir. The late Edmund Osthaus owned and shot two 12 bore Remington ejector doubleguns.

RWTF, if I am understanding your description correctly, the bottom of the barrels lugs, closest to the breech have 51 over XX stamped. Do you mean XX or can you just not read the number.

Those numbers should be read with a 3 in front (i.e. 351) and refer to the pellet count when Remington test fired the gun and confirmed choke. My 1907 production 1894 reads 345 over 328 and my 1900 reads 42 over 38 with the 3 having been dropped.

The P is thought to refer to Remington proof.

The LAEY is a bit of a mystery, as are any slash marks - ///

It is still possible to find an A grade 1894 or Model 1900 with fluid steel barrels, ejectors and good dimensions for less than $1000, sometimes much less.

I enjoy the three I own, especially my 10ga ejector gun as it has 30" damascus barrels, weighs 8lbs 14 ounces and has good dimensions. It patterns 93% with 1 1/8 #6 at 40 yards. Try to find a similar 10ga ejector equipped Parker or Smith for under $700, it will be a long search.

Yes- the XX marks are clear, and I also used a magnifier-- so your guess is as good as mine as to what the XX marks mean- I assumed the P stood for proof- and Boy Howdy- what the LAEY stands for is another mystery lost in the dust of time I guess.

Agree-= and I'm into this Remington for much less than 1K--what is the difference between the 1894 Model and the 1900 model. And yes, there is a A stamped on the watertable, but not an AE, even though this is an ejector gun.