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Interesting list,

You have to look at the figures longer term though. Shop I have bought 3 custom rifles from over 20 years builds actions numbered according to ATF rules. Go on the shelf, pulls them off as orders come in and completes the gun.

So he may make up a lot of actions one year then complete rifles off that run the next skewing the figures. He builds about a rifle a week with a 2-3 man shop, not a lot of variation gun to gun caliber & barrel mostly. Some of the work is sub-out most in house. Sheet shows him with 50 in 2012.

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This is a deceiving list. Many of the firms listed are not arms manufacturers, per se, but suppliers of parts to end use manufacturers.

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True it's the registered part that counts serial number applied to the Receiver.

Example my builder gets raw castings no number, when he finishes them onto actions and applies the number it's logged as a firearm. No further log as it's barreled, stocked and finished, next log is when it's sent from his shop to a dealer.

If he got a finished action number applied it would have been registered as a firearm by the manufacturer that applied the number and transferred to him as a dealer.

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I think that's the Ithaca in Ohio building the Model 37. That is a real low number for someone building a pump.

Is there no end to the Walmart mentality of the American buying public.

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FWIW, here is what I found for CSMC --

1998 -- 77
1999 -- 85
2000 -- 68
2001 -- 64
2002 -- 83
2003 -- 123 last year at 35 Woodland St.
2004 -- 119 first year at 100 Burritt St.
2005 -- 89
2006 -- 352
2007 -- 1683 - we started getting our Launch Edition RBLs
2008 -- no report
2009 -- 1175
2010 --
2011 --
2012 -- 573

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The ATF report documents guns manufactured in the USA, so guns imported by these same folks and then sold aren't included.

I thought the Beretta numbers looked light so I checked with a contact there who told me the imports are documented by a different federal agency, and they aggregate not by manufacturer but by country of origin.

He told me "most of Beretta's shotguns are imported from Italy. Currently, the core shotgun products are the Silver Pigeon, the A400 XTREME, and the A300 Outlander".

For any SxS fans out there, he also indicated "the new 486 has been well-received in the USA and we are looking to continue the roll out with additional gauges". Cross your fingers for a "28". :-)

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