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Did Krupp ever make damascus shotgun barrels? Or were there damascus barrels stamped Krupp?
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To the best of my knowledge they only produced fluid steel barrels.
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Fluid steel.
I have seen a set of Lefever Damascus barrels stamped Krupp. I believe these barrels to have been marked Krupp while they were in the white. I talkedto a man that knows about all there is to know about Krupp and he said no Krupp did not make Damascus.
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I have seen it stated on several occasions that Krupp never "Made" any small arms barrels. They made large barrels for heavy ordnance & otherwise as far as rifles & shotguns go, they supplied the steel to barrel makers. If you note on most barrels with a Krupp mark it will say Krupp Stahl (steel), this does not denote that Krupp actually made the barrel. This mark was normally applied by the barrel maker & not by Krupp themselves. I highly suspect that Damascus barrel with a Krupp mark, was stamped in error.
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Fluid steel.
I have seen a set of Lefever Damascus barrels stamped Krupp. I believe these barrels to have been marked Krupp while they were in the white. I talkedto a man that knows about all there is to know about Krupp and he said no Krupp did not make Damascus. I'd like to make the acquaintance of said fella as I have some questions of my own. Indeed, 2piper is most correct and I'd have to look but I believe the Krupp bar stock was 30cm in length and I have strong suspicions that it was acquired from the F. Asoethwer/Asthöwer/Asthowever/Ashtrömer( Gussstahlwerkes Fritz Asthöwer & Co. ) & Company(Annen Steel Works), Crucible Cast steel works, Annen, Westphalia or later Krupp Steel Works: http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...true#Post352351Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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"I have seen it stated on several occasions that Krupp never "Made" any small arms barrels. They made large barrels for heavy ordnance & otherwise as far as rifles & shotguns go, they supplied the steel to barrel makers."
Raimey & 2-pipe...as to the 'makers' of shotgun barrels formed from Krupp steel...Raimey, I know you believe most of that work was done in Belgium in the early 20th century - do you find maker's marks on many barrels? Was this activity highly fragmented among many small trades shops, or were there a number of large companies?
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Just a small sample of the Belgian barrel shops. There were many more. Lucien Clement barrel shop  ML barrel shop  Pieper barrel shop   Delcour-Dupont barrel shop  Pete
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Pete, that's really good stuff. Thanks
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I think, in most cases, the name of the steel used in the construction of barrels does not mean that the steel works in question actually produced the barrels. The Verney-Carron catalog from 1922 refers to "the principal qualities of steel THAT WE USE THIS YEAR IN THE MANUFACTURE OF OUR GUN BARRELS". In specific, they mention Jacob Holtzer steel, but I think the above sentence makes it clear that V-C and not Jacob Holtzer actually makes the barrels.
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Larry, I don't think your quote is crystal clear on who made the tubes. Most gunmakers finished up tubes supplied by others. Krupp, Whitworth , etc could go through several hands.
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