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The development of 3D printing has allowed the build of a design lurking for years in my mind and various CAD drawings and notebooks. It is a technical plus philosophical approach to the SXS, with minimalism being the major driver. The idea was to make it as simple as possible and yet elegant.

See it here: http://www.oplognosia.com/english/sideBySide.php

and let me know what you think.

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I like it, mostly. Any SxS shotgun is not realy needed in Europe just now, but a double rifle version of it would be useful for the all important boar hunting here. I would like to try one in 7x57R or 8x57 IRS.
Bravo for your bold approach.

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Who among us hasn't dreamed of crafting a gun from scratch to meet our every desire! While you say there is nothing 'new' in the concept - I don't think there is anything like it in the world today. The action looks georgeous, even if this is only a mock-up...how much more intriguing it would be with light reflecting off steel.

I hope you are able to carry it through to actual construction, and I hope you'll keep us posted when you do.

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I am impressed. There is a place for a dependable, yet extremely simple design S x S, IMO. I have some comments, if they are appropriate.

It is admirable that you provide several options, on such a simple design, of hammer types and designs for opening. I would probably opt, sight unseen at this point, for the self-cocking "hammerless" option. How you can convert such a simple action to self cocking as easily as is described is a mystery to me, but nonetheless attractive. One reason is that I am skeptical that the openings in the top tang for the external hammers look to be an invitation for trash to enter the lockwork. Hard to see how it can be avoided, due to the location of them. As much as I like the idea of being able to instantly look at the positions of the hammers I can't get past the concern for trash getting into the works.

Will the receiver be an alloy, or steel?

Lastly, this design screams ".410" !! With 30" barrels, a dream.

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I love the lines--kind of reminiscent of another round action, the Manufrance Ideal. Really cool! I share Stan's concern that the hammer openings at the top of the action would be practically guaranteed to allow water and crud to enter the action. Please make mine with underlever and external hammers!

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I prefer a side lever.
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On opening levers, I like where you are w/your prototype & the simple stud. However, I can say for a fact that I have friends shooting both Alfermans and Ljutics (sp? for both) and another that presently slips my mind [Cole?] that all utilize the 'stud' action opener and that works fine .... until you get old or develop stiff joints in your fingers and hands and the pain associated with it. I have one friend who tapes his fingers together to be able to operate the opening stud on his Alferman as he can no longer do it like he used to w/his index finger alone. in all these cases, I'm speaking of a LOT of clay target shooting.

If I am reading what you have written & depicted correctly, you are speaking of being able to enclose the hammers rather than take them or make them external. Rather, you are speaking of providing a cover incorporated in the action's design or a separate one or a pair of them. I don't know that I'd personally be that concerned in a target environment, but afield for some uses, conditions tend to be harsh and anything from seeds to chaff to freezing rain and sleet and ice & snow are all very possible when hunting waterfowl or rough shooting pheasant or quails.

I very much like what you are proposing and find your reasoning & thoughts wonderfully sound. If you get to the point of building several for sale, please send me a PM, I may like to get on the queue. I'd hope that you can go forward with it in the form your have shown. Refinements or tweaks can come later.

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I like it.Put a long tang trigger guard on it. Bobby

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I think that perhaps a simple removable trigger shoe added to the opening stud would add utility and give the gun a more substatial look as well.

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