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Ok I never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer but can someone tell me why a model 21 Grand American over & under is 10 grand and a SxS is 30 grand?

Because one's a M-21 and the other isn't?

Talking about new CSMC guns. Can't cost 20 grand more to build the SxS. I get why an original 21 Grand American is 30 grand. I'm slow not special.

Tony should build a side by side model 21 reproduction and price it same as the new o/u .I would be interested in one. Bobby

Look at the photos of the decadently lavish showroom, complete with the sports car, and the recent mention of an entirely new showroom opened in Danbury. Seems pretty obvious that the profit margins at CSMC are rather obscene. A field grade model 21 sxs could be marketed for about $3,000, but that would undermine the exorbitant prices of the higher grades. I'll spend my money elsewhere, thanks.

Sure, understood, this is about new CSMC guns.

How many CSMC M-21s do you think they make, vs. how many Inverness/21 O/Us? They're set up for modern, efficient, higher volume production on the O/Us -- which has a lot to do with the cost of making them.

But high end price mostly is about what the market will bear, not a direct correlation with cost of manufacture. He's in the business of maximizing profit, and probably has a pretty good feel for what happens to total profit on the SxSs if he sells them for less.

Jay

That's good to hear that an American gun company is prospering!!! Let them continue and good luck to them. How great it would be to call or e-mail a Hunter Arms Company or an A.H. Fox Gun Company to order a brand new SxS from a company that has been in existence for over a hundred and fifty years. We would know what the British feel like.

But, although not a SxS, we still have Ithaca and that lethal little bastard they still build, the Model 37!!!

The price of a Model 21 from USRA was pretty high thirty years ago. We didn't complain about it then. We either bought one or we didn't and went on with life. How times have changed.

Could be hand engraving on the M 21 SxS and laser on the O/U.

No. It's the fact the O/U is a machine made gun just like their Iverness which is a copy of a Rizzini. These guns are made with a machine and are of monobloc construction. The Model 21 SxS's have chopper lump barrels and are much more costly and difficult to make. This O/U 21 is an Iverness/Rizzini a little differently dolled up. Simple as that. And IMHO this O/U is NO Model 21 and rather, simply a gimmick for Galazan to make more money.....just my opinion though.